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JSchecter11 t1_jahpzk5 wrote

Hey, I'm sorry you at going through this. It must be hard for you and your family, and you must be looking for answers. I just want to say that more research is needed, and there's no existing study with enough data to prove cause. The National Library of Medicine has said as much in a review of all exisitng studies.

"Even though CBD shows therapeutic effects and THC opposing effects, the data is minimal and low safety and efficacy warrants more research. The relation between cannabis and schizophrenia needs further investigation. We need more case-control studies and clinical trials with a larger population to get conclusive data."

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AbigailFlippinfloppn t1_jahq8dw wrote

I thought it could trigger latent illness but not actually cause it

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Rickshmitt t1_jahrgpr wrote

Lied to? Dont blame the drug because of your genetics. You know smoke is bad for your lungs too. And so is car exhaust and gas stoves and burning pine needles. Thats life.

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NewEngland313 t1_jahmime wrote

Studies are out there dude. Don’t joke till happens to you.

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Teccnomancer t1_jahq54b wrote

There have been studies that tobacco use increases the risk of schizophrenia and there isn’t a label on cigarettes for it. I think it’s more of a risk for some people genetically then it is a blanket risk for people who regularly consume either. I assume there isn’t enough evidence through research, as opposed to say the correlation between cigarettes and cancer.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_jahwvct wrote

I think it's important that studies are not complete and infallible statements of fact. They're observations that can have underlying flaws in methodology, biases, and just incorrectly interpreting data.

"I smoked weed everyday for years and now I'm schizophrenic" for years is a true sentence for a lot of people, but it's almost impossible to say that there's causation where that state means the same as "Because I smoked weed everyday for years, I'm now schizophrenic"

Self-medicating behavior has always existed.

"I take tylenol every day and now I have a brain tumor" doesn't mean Tylenol caused a brain tumor. Most people would say "That Tylenol usage was because of the headaches being caused by an existing, growing brain tumor"

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DuePlatypus7760 t1_jahqezl wrote

They're generic warnings - if you have specific needs associated with your treatment of your illness, that's not on the regulation board, theb onus is on you and the professionals treating you.

There are studies that suggest that there might be a link between schizophrenia and cannabis consumption, namely that it can exacerbate the symptoms. Might and Can be operative words.

It can also exacerbate the symptoms of GAD - generalized anxiety disorder. But it's on the person suffering from those symptoms to avoid those substances.

Take personal responsibility for your treatment.

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Scary_Preparation_66 t1_jahn3p8 wrote

This would be better posted to r/schizophrenia

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NewEngland313 t1_jahnup7 wrote

I was gonna post there, but I wanted to ask Rhode Island residents personally. Since I am one. Thanks for the suggestion though!

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ynwp t1_jahqbhi wrote

I dunno about mental illness, but it seems some heavy users are experiencing what is being called cannabis hyperemesis syndrome. Symptoms include constant vomiting for days.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21665-cannabis-hyperemesis-syndrome

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buddhamanjpb t1_jahu7ff wrote

This condition is extremely rare and is easily cured just by stopping use.

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huh_phd t1_jahy95z wrote

It happens when you stop smoking, but why read the article when you can assume

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buddhamanjpb t1_jahyzbm wrote

Directly from the article you "read" Mr. PHD
"Is there a cannabis hyperemesis syndrome cure? The only known treatment to permanently get rid of CHS is to stop cannabis use completely"

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huh_phd t1_jahz4be wrote

After weathering the aftermath Mr. Not knowing is half the fun (aka the CCRI motto)

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ynwp t1_jaiac6t wrote

Article says 6% of patients that went to emergency for vomiting were diagnosed with CHS.

Seems enough people are getting ill to warrant some warnings?

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DuePlatypus7760 t1_jb0am15 wrote

CHS is heavily over-diagnosed.

I have CVS and was told that I had CHS for months upon months until my PCP took a deeper look into everything, such as the nuances of my symptoms and time line.

Yeah, 6% initially, but I'd be interested to see how many of those diagnoses were amended.

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ynwp t1_jb0b9ny wrote

It is all pretty new because of widespread use through legalization.

I am interested in the data as well.

Not sure why this might trigger people though.

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Proof-Variation7005 t1_jahuexr wrote

There's definitely been studies linking it to various mental health issues but they've always seemed to be the type of shit that falsely associates correlation with causation and with just a hint of the "reefer madness" hysteria as a driving factor. The potential for a selection bias on something like this is almost impossible to account for. Who's to say that every instance "confirming" a link isn't self-medicating?

I don't think there's anything to suggest an otherwise "normal" adult with no symptoms to suddenly develop schizophrenia if they start getting stoned all the time.

We also that people who've been diagnosed can still have episodes, regardless of medication and circumstance because it's not a condition that's easy to predict, control, or understand.

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BingBong022 t1_jahuot3 wrote

So because you smoked weed and got schizophrenia that means weed causes schizophrenia? I'm sure you are looking for something or someone to blame but this is not how science works. What reputable research study shows this to be true? What university conducted the research study? What was the sample size vs control group? For this to be proven true you would need to have huge population sizes and multiple research studies done by different universities concluding the same point. You offer no links to these research studies or any proof. Due to the U.S government scheduling Marijuana as a level 1 controlled substance little to no research can be conducted within the U.S at this time. FAULTY CAUSE AND EFFECT (post hoc, ergo propter hoc). This fallacy falsely assumes that one event causes another. Often a reader will mistake a time connection for a cause-effect connection. EXAMPLES: Every time I wash my car, it rains.

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buddhamanjpb t1_jahuyy9 wrote

Like literally everything in life, your experience may vary. To say Cannabis caused your issue is also irresponsible. There are a ton of factors that could cause it.

The fact is, every substance has side effects, some severe, to every person. There are people out there that could eat a peanut and die.

You can blame the Gov't for making it a schedule I in the first place which resulted in stopping research of the drug. Cannabis has far greater benefits as a medicine, than side effects. It's safer than Tylenol, Ibuprofen, etc. Which is in every American home.

It's everyone's personal responsibility to know what they are consuming.

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Automotivematt t1_jahtjyd wrote

Have you been in contact with the government regarding warning labels to be placed on liquor? There are a ton of bad health effects associated with alcohol yet I have never seen a warning label.

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