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StreetStatistician t1_j6u5ll6 wrote

Reply to comment by geffe71 in Man claims self-defense in Providence landlord homicide by Rogue-Island-Pirate

Given his landlord and vigilantes tried to kick in his door and kill or throw him out in winter, it sounds like he is exactly the person who should have a gun.

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Good-Expression-4433 t1_j6u9e8l wrote

Hell even if the dude was a piece of shit with a warrant out, it doesn't change that in this particular case, the dude was legally in the right. He could always get charged for possession of a firearm if he's a convicted felon or owning an illegal firearm, but legally he was in the right to defend himself from an armed intruder.

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sandsonik t1_j6ultb8 wrote

They were BOTH armed intruders

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StreetStatistician t1_j6v1t5y wrote

No, he wasn't. He was an authorized guest of the person on the lease and legally there is no distinction between a guest living there or the person on the lease when it comes to most legal matters such as home defense or domestic violence.

Why are you determined to find fault with a guy who was subject to an illegal eviction and breaking and entering from an armed intruder?

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lecreusetpopcorn t1_j6zw7ro wrote

How do you know he was an authorized guest? An authorized guest is only authorized if authorized by the landlord. Not the leaseholder.

Also, we have no idea if the leaseholder wanted him there. Pure conjecture.

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sandsonik t1_j6wnjo7 wrote

And I could ask why are you determined to stick up for an illegal gun owner who was residing there illegally and not paying rent? Neither party in this story is innocent.

And the person who rented the apartment moved away, so I'm not sure how you think he's allowed to have guests in a place he no longer lives? Am I allowed to have guests stay at your house? Or all my former apts, just because I once lived there?

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StreetStatistician t1_j6x6wee wrote

I love that you've rationalized a violent landlord parasite who kicked in someone's door on the same moral plane as someone who is late on their rent and has a gun to defend themselves.

You're also bafflingly (willingly) ignorant about tenant and occupancy laws. You just hate the poor lol.

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barsoapguy t1_j76qxyn wrote

I mean the man has a point , this guy isn’t on the lease! That’s a huge huge problem.

Maybe if he had been paying the rent on time she wouldn’t have gone to these extremes . It sucks that someone like this has to be treated the same via eviction as someone on the signed lease!

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sandsonik t1_j78yjcf wrote

Oh, you know this person is poor? How?

Show me where I rationalized her kicking in the door with a gun. I clearly said that was foolish and she should have called the cops. The fact that she felt the need to be armed and accompanied makes me wonder what sort of interactions they'd already had.

You just hate landlords, and if non paying renters cause her to be evicted, will you then stick up for her?

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