Submitted by davcross t3_10d0z9p in Pennsylvania
susinpgh t1_j4w0w58 wrote
Reply to comment by CharacterBrief9121 in When will the election boards provide Proof your vote was counted correctly by davcross
The application to register does require ID. They ask for your PA ID number. If you don't have that, they ask for the last 4 digits of tour SS#.
FYI, your SS# is required in order to get a PA ID.
In 2021, the PA GOP wanted to hand over all of the voter registration roles to a third party vendor. One of the greatest objections was that it would expose the SS# of every registered voter in the state.
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w1r5h wrote
I’m aware of that. I have my voter registration which has a voter id number which is tied to my drivers license number which again is tied to my ss number. That’s 3 degrees of separation and honestly not necessarily needed. In a different comment elsewhere on this thread I addressed that you can in fact see if your vote was counted just not towards who.
susinpgh t1_j4w30ba wrote
My point was that it was already associated with your SS#, and using it for an ID is extremely risky.
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w3twc wrote
Using SS# as an ID for Government Voting is risky? Only if a third party is involved with personal data. Other countries have implemented electronic voting with security measures greater than paper ballots. The only reason that has not progressed here is because Republicans have an active interest in keeping voter turnout low among the demographics that don’t support conservative views.
susinpgh t1_j4w4bd3 wrote
Yes, I think there's a lot of risk involved in tying your votes to your SS#. Instead, your registration could easily be assigned a voter ID number, which wouldn't be as big an issue.
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w4w5u wrote
My reasoning for ss as voter id is just that it will be extremely hard to commit fraud against that system. Voter fraud is still a major issue and it does seem to lean heavily into right wingers, who also have a vested interest in suppressing opposing voters. And this same right wing is the one calling for third party companies to monitor votes, same right wing refusing to update an old method of voting for no reason other than “muh tradition.” The only way I can see to effectively counter that is the ss as voter id.
susinpgh t1_j4w5mpl wrote
I don't agree that voter fraud is a major issue. I don't see how using your SS# instead of a unique number makes it any more secure.
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w6oks wrote
link to heritage foundation regarding voter fraud
Disregarding the ss number as Id bit, voter fraud is an issue.
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w6x0u wrote
CharacterBrief9121 t1_j4w7bxx wrote
And a reminder this is who was caught and convicted. The number of actual fraud instances has to be higher than the recorded amount of convictions.
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