Muscadine76 t1_j6gbkn8 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 3:00 AM

Reply to comment by drxdrg08 in Universal Childcare for Pennsylvanians— and everyone in the US by Existing-Papaya-8643

The position that people who receive valuable taxpayer services aren’t taxpayers is incredibly disingenuous.

drxdrg08 t1_j6gtlsx wrote on January 30, 2023 at 5:27 AM

It's not a position. It's a simple mathematical fact.

Muscadine76 t1_j6i5bh9 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 2:36 PM

Now you’re either doubling down on disingenuousness or just aren’t familiar with what a “fact” actually is. If I pay $100 a month for house insurance for a year and at the end of that year my house burns down and I’m given $250,000 to rebuild, that doesn’t mean I was never an “insurance payer”. If I donate $10 to my local food bank every few months, then lose my job for a year and get $100s of dollars in food support from the pantry, that doesn’t mean I’m not a donor.

drxdrg08 t1_j6ic2g6 wrote on January 30, 2023 at 3:24 PM

> If I pay $100 a month for house insurance for a year and at the end of that year my house burns down and I’m given $250,000 to rebuild, that doesn’t mean I was never an “insurance payer”.

Your analogy does not make sense. Government means tested benefits are not one time payments.

If your house burns down every year, and you get $250,000 every year while you only pay $1200 every year into the insurance pool... that's an accurate analogy.

If you give $1 to the government in taxes, and the government gives you $10 right back, that doesn't mean you can be counted on as a source of taxes for the next redistribution program that the government comes up with. This isn't rocket science to understand. This is basic math.

But I highly suspect that it's not that you don't understand, you just want to ignore inconvenient facts. That's what Reddit does, come up with a false narrative and ignore basic facts.