CleverName550 t1_j6amqv8 wrote on January 28, 2023 at 11:30 PM

The little Southeast corner of Pennsylvania supports the whole state. It's where the money and people are. That includes: Chester County, Delaware County, Montgomery County, Bucks County, and Philadelphia County. 4 out of 5 of those counties are the top 4 richest in Pennsylvania out of all 67 countries. Philadelphia County actually places 45th out of 67.

drxdrg08 OP t1_j6aomyz wrote on January 28, 2023 at 11:44 PM

In the context of the original quoted comment, none of those counties would form any kind of economic or governmental union with the city of Philadelphia.

stuckonsometrain t1_j6aqbt3 wrote on January 28, 2023 at 11:57 PM

Who doesn't consider those counties part of the Philadelphia area?

boneman1982 t1_j6l9eq8 wrote on January 31, 2023 at 2:59 AM

He doesn't believe in metropolitan areas.

drxdrg08 OP t1_j6ark9k wrote on January 29, 2023 at 12:06 AM

> Who doesn't consider those counties part of the Philadelphia area?

Again, the conversation is clearly about the city of Philadelphia itself.

> If Philly were able to remove itself from the state you would see very quickly everything in Philly would get better. Those hick towns wouldn't be able to do anything without all the sales tax philly sends to Harrisburg.

This idea presumes that the neighboring counties would send all their taxes to the the city of Philadelphia, instead of the whole state, thus Philadelphia would make out like a bandit.

I imagine if this ever was up for a public vote, the only people that would vote for it would live inside Philadelphia.

stuckonsometrain t1_j6auhxe wrote on January 29, 2023 at 12:29 AM

I would imagine most of the people in the surrounding counties - especially Delco and Monco would identify closer to the city than the rural part of the state.

In your defense though I am unaware of the particulars of this hypothetical referendum you have created in your mind.

CleverName550 t1_j6aqndc wrote on January 28, 2023 at 11:59 PM

They are the surrounding counties of Philadelphia and make up the Philadelphia area. They technically are separate counties but none of this would ever happen anyway. There is a lot of business revenue in Philly but per capita the people are poor. Culturally there is more in common with SE PA, South Jersey and Northern Delaware than the rest of the state of PA. Many of us in the Philly area own second homes in New Jersey on the shoreline. To be honest, I've lived in PA my entire life but I never leave the NYC-Philly-DC Northeast Corridor. I never travel West or Northwest. I graduated from Temple and Penn. I have no connection to the rest of the state. It might as well be Ohio. But I want to visit Harrisburg one day.

Either way, that guy was being a douche and being dismissive toward the rest of the state's contributors. I suppose he has a mindset that is common among a lot of folks down here in our little corner that looks at the rest of PA outside Allegheny and Erie County derisively as Pennsyltucky. That's not the way to talk to your fellow Pennsylvanians and it breeds contempt. Don't sweat him.

drxdrg08 OP t1_j6atlw1 wrote on January 29, 2023 at 12:22 AM

> Either way, that guy was being a douche and being dismissive toward the rest of the state's contributors.

If he was right, that Philadelphia does support the state, he would be a douche and dismissive.

But he's wrong. And not a little wrong.

The city of Philadelphia is not self sustaining, but requires many billions of dollars of outside support just to maintain current status quo.