Submitted by TransporterOffline t3_1066cf8 in Pennsylvania
[deleted] t1_j3gew2o wrote
Reply to comment by ScienceWasLove in Majority of 16k canceled Pa. mail-in ballots were from Dems by TransporterOffline
“Democrats had 10,920 votes thrown out, about half for lacking secrecy envelopes. Republicans saw 3,503 ballots forfeited. Independents and third parties amounted to 1,731 votes that did not count in the fall election”
Do us a favor, don’t try math again.
ScienceWasLove t1_j3gjpr4 wrote
I did. I read the entire article. It states, eventually, that there was around 1,000,000 mail in ballots for dems, 187,000 for rep.
16,000 were discarded. 10,000 were from democrats, 3,500 from republicans.
10,000 vs 1,000,000 is 1%
3,500 vs. 187,000 is 1.8%.
I did not include the independent numbers.
It is worse. 1.8x more republicans votes were thrown out proportionally.
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The alarmist title states “a majority” of the thrown out ballots (16,000) were democrats - which is true - because more than half of the THROWN out ballots were dems.
However, this is sensationalism and does not represent a true understanding of what happened.
AmbiguousMessages t1_j3gn0mu wrote
If the election was based on the number of mail in ballots that would matter. But it wasn’t. In the overall count more democratic votes were negated.
hydroracer8B t1_j3gqa3w wrote
So it's absolutely idiotic to say that the title is sensationalist.
When you look at the numbers YOU just provided, the majority of discarded votes were from Democratic voters. The headline is true
ScienceWasLove t1_j3gqubc wrote
Right. But it is clearly misleading because it makes people think
A) a majority of democratic mail in ballot were not counted WHEN REALLY
B) 10,000 of 1,000,000 mail in democrat votes were not counted (1%)
If you disagree w/ the how misleading the title is, you only need to see the comments.
Another accurate title would be: “Republicans mail ballots thrown out at nearly twice the rate of Democrat mail in ballots”
Equally as alarmist, equally one-sided, equally true, equally mis/disinformation.
How about “98+% of all 1.2+ million mail Ballots recorded accurately”.
A much less sensational headline that builds trust in our near error free election system in PA.
hydroracer8B t1_j3gstr0 wrote
The headline literally says "majority of cancelled ballots were democratic"
Your point you listed above suggest that you didn't even finish reading the title. It's not misinformation because it's fucking true & accurate
Go apologize to your 3rd grade math teacher, and also your 2nd grade English teacher
tyrael459 t1_j3gl56b wrote
Very true, but unfortunately it’s just typical headline writing for either “side” of the issues these days.
There are great journalists out there, but never forget that any media company needs to make money somehow.
ScienceWasLove t1_j3gmcqj wrote
Fair enough.
But what is truly scary is the down votes by people who are intentionally ignoring the facts that don't support their conspiracy theory.
AmbiguousMessages t1_j3gobnh wrote
They’re not. The percentage of negated mail-in votes is a meaningless number.
tyrael459 t1_j3gmx5g wrote
Agreed. That’s how we are these days, though. Most of us are in our respective bubbles, pretty much unwilling to listen to stuff that we don’t already agree with. Pretty depressing, really.
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