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TheUltimateSalesman t1_j2s0fk0 wrote

Reply to comment by Agent-Quinn in I discovered a lot about PA by simply not using the Turnpike. by Yinzerman1992

Why don't they just raise the taxes/tolls on trucks, or better yet, trucks whose destination isn't PA.

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Agent-Quinn t1_j2s0udc wrote

That would target large businesses, corporations and the wealthy whom are sending these trucks around Better have a regressive tax on the working class. Remember these large trucks and trailers destroy roads quickly due to weight. They should be paying 90% of the operational costs.

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TheUltimateSalesman t1_j2s2q08 wrote

>Remember these large trucks and trailers destroy roads quickly due to weight

exactly.

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Finrodsrod t1_j2sg3dc wrote

> That would target large businesses, corporations and the wealthy whom are sending these trucks

Can't have that! I am a temporarily embarrassed millionaire. How dare you suggest my future taxes to go up!?

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IamSauerKraut t1_j2tbbgd wrote

Why? Beccause of a law passed by the legis which requires to PTC to do things in a certain way, including handing large chunks of the proceeds of tolls to PA north of I-80 for road projects.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j3cv6cl wrote

Exactly.

No one talks about the state extorting the turnpike commission.

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jralll234 t1_j2sbjjn wrote

How would you implement taxing vehicles that aren’t destined for PA?

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31spiders t1_j2sodl1 wrote

Semi’s you mean? Their log book has destinations for all deliveries.

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jralll234 t1_j2suoad wrote

So you’re going to demand to see every log book? I don’t know seems cumbersome as hell. Plus the feds aren’t going to like that for vehicles traveling on federally funded interstates, and someone could make constitutional arguments against it as well.

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31spiders t1_j2sw50i wrote

Well they’re also going to file the toll roads on their taxes. You COULD just inspect the ones getting off certain exits that are expected to be interstate travel 1st, last and whatever is closest to MD/DE. There’s multiple avenues to this, don’t act like it’s impossible.

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jralll234 t1_j2t6zb8 wrote

I’m pretty sure the constitution guarantees interstate travel, so it would get shot-down on that, but also, if PA were to start this, surrounding states would do the same as retribution. It’s a horrible idea.

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whomp1970 t1_j2xn396 wrote

> So you’re going to demand to see every log book?

This already happens with fuel taxes, and has been this way for 20+ years.

If you buy 200 gallons in New York, and drive all the way to, say, Illinois, the fuel tax is divvied up between all the states you pass through.

See: IFTA

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International Fuel Tax Agreement

>The International Fuel Tax Agreement (or IFTA) is an agreement between the lower 48 states of the United States and the Canadian provinces, to simplify the reporting of fuel use by motor carriers that operate in more than one jurisdiction. Alaska, Hawaii, and the Canadian territories are not required to participate, however all of Canada and Alaska do. An operating carrier with IFTA receives an IFTA license and two decals for each qualifying vehicle it operates. The carrier files a quarterly fuel tax report.

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IamSauerKraut t1_j2tbhus wrote

Cripes... they cant even keep the weight stations open on a regular basis. And TT's go by them without stopping all the time.

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31spiders t1_j2tq8k9 wrote

I have one by my house that ALWAYS has a state patrolman stationed at (it’s not a weight station it’s a grade warning/runaway truck ramp deal but required to stop and they enforce that). Weigh stations might be different idk believe me though if Pennsylvania taxes it….they WILL get that money.

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IamSauerKraut t1_j2wv6se wrote

Based on what I saw during a recent road trip, PSP needs to do more enforcement as to TT's.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j3cv2ok wrote

Sure, let's pass more costs on to consumers. They can afford it.

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TheUltimateSalesman t1_j3cx5tt wrote

So you think it makes more sense to make non-commercial users of the turnpike pay? And not the trucks that cause the roadway to fall apart?

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NEBook_Worm t1_j3czd71 wrote

It makes sense to stop the state extorting money from the turnpike commission. Then take away the tolls completely, because the damn road is finished.

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