The Appalachian trail, and the bunkers. Crazy PA stuff too

Submitted by xWhiteRYNOx t3_zw4vmy in Pennsylvania

Mile Run Road, up in 4th gap, was basically my back yard. Elimsport, PA. The gaps are so beautiful in the fall. Gotta see it for yourself. Close to the bunkers too. Check them out sometime. Google it. Old Town was called "Alvira". During the war, they kicked the whole town out, built like 200 bunkers to store tnt, and was decommissioned after like 3 months. It is crazy. I heard there is jeeps buried up there, but no digging is allowed. I would love to take a metal detector up there, if it was legal. Old civil war cemetery as well, which ends up at the back of Allenwood Federal Prison. One bunker is on their land. Crazy, little area... 2 ufo encounters that I know of. One documented. It was in the paper. I believe sometime in April? I was maybe 3 or 5, so around the years of 1992-1995. It's in the sun gazette. I'm just too lazy right now to find the link and put it in here

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Dredly t1_j1svdgz wrote

smoking the street weed again?

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thunderGunXprezz t1_j1sy87e wrote

This sounds like a compilation of listening to a bunch of backwoods barflies on a Tuesday night.

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aust_b t1_j1uej8o wrote

Old retired guys getting sloshed on 1.50 Busch lite drafts and rambling on in rural Lycoming county

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1wi5uv wrote

Yea, I'm only barely in my 30's. Sorry to disappoint your "pre-judgement" on my looks. But again, as I posted for the others, here...

https://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2019/10/lycoming-county-saw-ufos-in-1992/

"One witness reported seeing “four bright, white lines spaced far apart in a row and hearing a ‘rumbling’ sound.” Other witnesses said the objects “rumbled low enough over area homes to rattle the glass in some windows,” the newspaper reported". That witness, whose glass was rattling in her house, was my neighbor a out half a mile away. My dad was outside, and seen the craft himself. My dad isn't one to belie e such things. He doesn't care for Bigfoot, or conspiracy theories, or any of that, but would talk about that night... He said he "felt" the vibrations, as he watched this triangular craft, with white lights on the bottom, fly over head. Thousands of people reported the sighting. What, mass hallucinations that only affected some people, from as far as trout run to Selinsgrove? Yea... That sounds more crazy to me than aliens... But the weed makes people hallucinate, and go crazy, right? If anyone smokes weed, and sees something incredible, it was the weed. If not weed, they imagined it in their heads... Right? I mean, I know common sense, isn't so common these days, but come on. If you have a creature in front of you, that looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and have thousands of reports from different individuals claiming to see, said "duck", and they all call it a duck, it's a duck. No discussion, no debate, no hallucinations... Open your eyes... Don't blindly follow the person in front of you. Look around....

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aust_b t1_j1xyaxg wrote

I talked with one once when I was in my local joint. He had a pet squirrel that he saved. Someone told the game Commission which made him release it. Climbed up a tree and fell instantly and died right in front of them. Rip lil homie

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j20aiws wrote

That is sad. Regardless, whether aliens exist, or they don't, shouldn't get in the way of us furthering humanity toward our next evolutionary step. I believe the greed of today's society (major corporations), while they do just enough to appear "good", nobody acquires that much power, that fast, without running some people over along the way. Amazon. Tesla. Google. They are not even what I am talking about. I am talking about the top 1%, of the top 1%. Want some crazy ramblings? I got you bro. There was only ever 2 presidents that were "for the people". Abraham Lincoln was one of them. He was working on developing a new currency for the US called "green backs". It was to get away from the World Banc, and it's flawed monetary system. Governments, such as the USA, have to get our permission to print the money, from them. We then owe interest on that money, that we made. In our mints. But the only way to pay that interest, is to borrow more. Abraham Lincoln tried to get away from that flawed, greedy system, and he was assassinated for it. JFK was the other. Same fate. This greed is probably why the aliens left, and haven't came back. The cruelty that humans are capable of. Some have a harder time than others distinguishing between right, and wrong, but if we can see what is more right, we should take that path. I believe we are close to this next step of evolution, but the greedy will never let it happen. It will take an apocalyptic event, world wide death, with few survivors, to break free from this system. It only spreads, and devourers more. Sounds crazy? Look at the USA. Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, The Philippines, parts near the carribean... Russia and Ukraine... It's never enough. When the greedy get what they want, it only makes them want some thing else more. The world is only so big. It's over-populated as it is. Look at the global population levels over the past 100 years. Even the past 50. It's insane, the exponential rate we are currently growing at. Watch the movie "idiocracy", then think about genetics. Mike Judge, creator of Beavis and Butthead, was a profit. That movie is coming true. Crazy enough for you? Just joking about that last part, but it a hilarious movie that you should watch. Luke Wilson, Dax Sheppard, Terry Crews as the president... It's a good laugh. But may be the path we are on. Who knows. I'm just bored, and have crazy thoughts that run through my head, all the time, but I promise I am not a "conspiracy theorist" or crazy. I am intelligent. I love science. I just like to challenge the mainstream. The ones in line. Encourage them, that if they are going to be in line, to at least look around. This wod is a beautiful place. There is wonder, right beneath our feet. We only scratched a portion of the earth's surface. There is wonder, right inside of us. Scientists still don't fully understand the human brain, and it's potential. If we could control our own metabolism, we could "hypotheticaly" go in to "hibernasis", and would be easier to travel the galaxy ourselves. What's funny, is the movie "limitless" just started playing on my TV. Let's push boundaries (in a safe, and positive way). Let's not put limitations on what we are capable of, or what is around us. Anything is possible, but usually easy to tell the difference between "fairy tales" and "strange occurrences". Mostly, mass testimony. But that's all for now. I wish all of you the best in life, and hope it is filled with wonder, and hope, and love.

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Dredly t1_j20i0tj wrote

you do know what a paragraph is right?

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j26qje1 wrote

Yes, but I'm not trying to write an essay. I'm not in school. This is the internet. This is the place for long, crazy ramblings.

   Is this better? Is this how you want me to do it? A few sentances, a new idea, skip down, and indent? This is only ever used to do essays, or for more "formal" occasions. This is just some random writings, of a person with many ideas, and not in order.

   My brain is filled with many ideas at once. Mainly, at this moment, how pointless this sentance structure is, especially online. I get off topic, then bounce back, and to another topic, then back.... Hard to do "paragraphs", without having a set thesis, and 3 talking points...

   Most of the time, for "essay form", the first paragraph is your "summary". It explains what your point is that you are trying to make, it Kay's out 3 key talking points, and just to give an understanding of why you are writing an essay. Then, the next 3 paragraphs are about those 3 talking points, mentioned in the first paragraph. The last paragraph is a closing paragraph. It re summarizes your points, and thesis.

   I am not here to write an essay, nor to have my writings "graded". You see, all the time, all the people who spell words wrong, use no commas, or any punctuation, let alone some grammar, and you are going to come at me about not having some random writings in paragraph form? Sorry. You will not find that on the internet. This is actually good compared to the grammar and punctuation of some others.

   But to answer your question, yes. I do know about paragraphs. I know what they are, why they are used, and how to use them. But I'm not here to satisfy, every single person, grammatically. I'm not here to judge others, or to down them, or correct/collect their essays. Only to try to spread love, and encouragement, and try to help some open their eyes. I got dealt a shitty hand, and the deck is stacked against me, yet I am more kind, and positive, and helpful than others. Some people are so miserable, for no reason... Cheer up. This world is a beautiful place. Beauty is everywhere around us. It's up to us to recognize it. If we spend out whole lives, with our head down, following the person in front of us, we will never see the lush, green mountains, that meet a baby blue sky, with puffy white clouds... No beauty where you are? I call bullshit. On the atomic scale, all the way up to mega-parses of space, and all levels in between, there exists beauty, and wonder, and hope. If you can't see it, it's either because you are not looking, or do not want to. I love everyone. I just wish we treated others better. So much cruelty, judgment, and criticism in this world today, but instead of helping fix the issue, most just point, and laugh, or keep their head down. It's good to mind your own business, but it's never wrong to try to help someone in need.
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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1whw5w wrote

https://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2019/10/lycoming-county-saw-ufos-in-1992/ "One witness reported seeing “four bright, white lines spaced far apart in a row and hearing a ‘rumbling’ sound.” Other witnesses said the objects “rumbled low enough over area homes to rattle the glass in some windows,” the newspaper reported". That witness, whose glass was rattling in her house, was my neighbor about half a mile away. My dad was outside, and seen the craft himself. My dad isn't one to belie e such things. He doesn't care for Bigfoot, or conspiracy theories, or any of that, but would talk about that night... He said he "felt" the vibrations, as he watched this triangular craft, with white lights on the bottom, fly over head. Thousands of people reported the sighting. What, mass hallucinations that only affected some people, from as far as trout run to Selinsgrove? Yea... That sounds more crazy to me than aliens... But the weed makes people hallucinate, and go crazy, right? If anyone smokes weed, and sees something incredible, it was the weed. If not weed, they imagined it in their heads... Right? I mean, I know common sense, isn't so common these days, but come on. If you have a creature in front of you, that looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and have thousands of reports from different individuals claiming to see, said "duck", and they all call it a duck, it's a duck. No discussion, no debate, no hallucinations... Open your eyes... Don't blindly follow the person in front of you. Look around....

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wagsman t1_j1vv4gg wrote

It's really not that hard to get a medical card and get the good stuff, but some people will never learn.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1wfsnj wrote

Judge if you will. It's documented... https://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2019/10/lycoming-county-saw-ufos-in-1992/ There is a link that speaks of many ufo experiences in this area. 2 miles from the bunkers, and a federal prison, in the middle of nowhere, PA. I tell you, this is a crazy state. You never know what you will see...

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Dredly t1_j1wk1ih wrote

I was talking about your crazy post, not their crazy UFO stuff

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1xekna wrote

I only buy medical, from a dispensary. Street weed almost killed me twice, and tired of not knowing what I will get. I am usually under the influence of my medicine. But no. Not street weed. This one event is documented. I had my own crazy incident, and my friend was with me, and we both witnessed the same thing. Again, what are the chances of two people, hallucinating the same thing, after not taking hallucinogens. I did NOT see a ufo. I did NOT see any little green men. Long story short, it was a crazy light at 3 am that came out of the sky, and we had about an hour of missing time. That's all that I remember, if I remember correctly. I want to undergo hypnosis to see if I am crazy, or if anything was "hidden" or anything. Watch "the fourth kind" with Milla Jovovich. That is based on true events, and shows some real footage. It's crazy. Based in Alaska

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Dredly t1_j1xf0o2 wrote

would have been funnier if you got the joke I guess

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1xg2qi wrote

Would have been funnier, if the joke was funnier too. Touche.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1whm3f wrote

"One witness reported seeing “four bright, white lines spaced far apart in a row and hearing a ‘rumbling’ sound.” Other witnesses said the objects “rumbled low enough over area homes to rattle the glass in some windows,” the newspaper reported". That witness, whose glass was rattling in her house, was my neighbor a out half a mile away. My dad was outside, and seen the craft himself. My dad isn't one to belie e such things. He doesn't care for Bigfoot, or conspiracy theories, or any of that, but would talk about that night... He said he "felt" the vibrations, as he watched this triangular craft, with white lights on the bottom, fly over head. Thousands of people reported the sighting. What, mass hallucinations that only affected some people, from as far as trout run to Selinsgrove? Yea... That sounds more crazy to me than aliens... But the weed makes people hallucinate, and go crazy, right? If anyone smokes weed, and sees something incredible, it was the weed. If not weed, they imagined it in their heads... Right? I mean, I know common sense, isn't so common these days, but come on. If you have a creature in front of you, that looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and have thousands of reports from different individuals claiming to see, said "duck", and they all call it a duck, it's a duck. No discussion, no debate, no hallucinations... Open your eyes... Don't blindly follow the person in front of you. Look around....

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j1sw4dq wrote

Be careful. That is where the dogmen and wendigo live.

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thunderGunXprezz t1_j1sya5h wrote

Mothman migrates north sometimes too.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j1sylui wrote

Why would any self respecting cryptid migrate north to this place?

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thunderGunXprezz t1_j1sypxm wrote

Well for one, it's not West Virginia.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j1szkqo wrote

Not sure PA is an improvement over WV to be honest.

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thunderGunXprezz t1_j1t02kc wrote

Ya I mean it was mostly a cheap shot. I'm not about to get into an argument over it, mostly because I don't care either way. At this point I'm mostly concerned that OP didn't have a stroke while writing this post.

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j1t098u wrote

It's okay - WV is basically South PA anyways.

I'm wondering if the OP is going to look into what dogmen, wendigo and mothman is.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1wjekb wrote

Why? Am I old? Do I sound "crazy"? Just because someone's mind is so small, that they can't possibly conceive of life on other planets, shouldn't give them the right to try to be my doctor. Why would I have a stroke from this post? I'm only talking about the crazy, incredible things that have happened, in this little area, in the middle of nowhere. But since you will not believe me, would you believe the news paper? Or mufon? Or the airport? Because all of them had thousands of reports of this ufo sighting. But here is a link for you to go read it from the newspaper itself, and a message I have included to a few other people that think I'm crazy... https://www.sungazette.com/news/top-news/2019/10/lycoming-county-saw-ufos-in-1992/

"One witness reported seeing “four bright, white lines spaced far apart in a row and hearing a ‘rumbling’ sound.” Other witnesses said the objects “rumbled low enough over area homes to rattle the glass in some windows,” the newspaper reported". That witness, whose glass was rattling in her house, was my neighbor about half a mile away. My dad was outside, and seen the craft himself. My dad isn't one to believe such things. He doesn't care for Bigfoot, or conspiracy theories, or any of that, but would talk about that night... He said he "felt" the vibrations, as he watched this triangular craft, with white lights on the bottom, fly over head. Thousands of people reported the sighting. What, mass hallucinations that only affected some people, from as far as trout run to Selinsgrove? Yea... That sounds more crazy to me than aliens... But the weed makes people hallucinate, and go crazy, right? If anyone smokes weed, and sees something incredible, it was the weed. If not weed, they imagined it in their heads... Right? I mean, I know common sense, isn't so common these days, but come on. If you have a creature in front of you, that looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and have thousands of reports from different individuals claiming to see, said "duck", and they all call it a duck, it's a duck. No discussion, no debate, no hallucinations... Open your eyes... Don't blindly follow the person in front of you. Look around....

PA is a crazy place. I want to get out of here, but not because it isn't beautiful, or wonderous...

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IrrumaboMalum t1_j1t4e4c wrote

https://pabucketlist.com/exploring-the-abandoned-alvira-bunkers-in-union-county/

For more information about the bunkers.

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Steelplate7 t1_j1tui9x wrote

Thanks! This is pretty close to where I live. Maybe the wife and I will check it out sometime.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1tyrpa wrote

I used to ride my bicycle from my house to there. Less than 2 miles. Can be hard to find one open, but they do have some open... They are all graffiti inside...

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karmekanic t1_j1uap30 wrote

I think you might be mistaken, the bunkers of alvira are nowhere near the Appalachian Trail

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newworldman1070 t1_j1ue9vg wrote

I don’t like how the AT misses most of scenic PA.

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karmekanic t1_j1ufp3x wrote

me too, the AT gives PA hiking a bad rep unfortunately

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Brunt-FCA-285 t1_j1uk3m7 wrote

I’ve loved my weekend treks over the AT from my Boy Scout days, but there is a reason that the thru-hikers we talked to call our state “Rocksylvania.”

The Pinnacle and Bake Oven Knob are awesome, though.

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Illustrious_Air_1438 t1_j1uyp6a wrote

I'm from Lehigh County and love the AT, but I agree there are more scenic parts of the state. I hear the Mid State Trail is very good, but I've never hiked any of it.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1wfbpv wrote

Which trail, of the thousands of miles of trials, in the Appalachian mountains, are you referring to? I could almost walk out back, and get to any "main" part of the Appalachian trail, if you knew which turns to take... They are all connected. There isn't just "one main trail" and that's it... There is more than one path to reach a destination. Just because I didn't live "right on the most traveled part of the Appalachian trail", doesn't mean I didn't grow up with trails, through the Appalachian Mountains...

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karmekanic t1_j1wxxf2 wrote

I am referring to the Appalachian Trail, which unlike other trails, is not a trail system. it's one continuous footpath. and Elimsport is at least a one hour drive from the AT. you couldn't get there out and back in a day

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1xcb88 wrote

Can you get any long distance, on foot, in a day? I'm telling you, there is a continuous path I can take, from my old stomping grounds, and get to "the Appalachian trail". Will it be quick? No. But walking the whole trail takes months. But it branches, and branches, and branches, and branches, throughout the whole path. They are all part of "the Appalachian Trails". You are only reffering to a small part, that is the main path, that covers the most distance, in a straight line. But that straight line isn't the only way. Anyone can start, and get off at any point. You don't have to start at one end, and go to the other. Most people don't make it the whole distance, and that is only a small portion, if you consider all the branches off "the main path", but even the branches are part of "the Appalachian Trails". Just because it wasn't as traveled, doesn't mean it wasn't traveled before, or else there wouldn't be footpaths, and roads, and all that up there. Yes, it may be a distance, but I'm just saying that it was possible.

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thunderGunXprezz t1_j1sy2dz wrote

What war?

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BuddyA t1_j1t6a1b wrote

WW II

There’s some awesome stuff in that part of the Tiadaghton State Forest.

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xWhiteRYNOx OP t1_j1wk9ui wrote

Civil War. Gettysburg was in PA. Some union soldiers were from this area. There is some old names up there. Ww2 happened over seas, in the 1940's. There are names there from like the 1700's or 1800's...

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