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SamShephardsMustache t1_j0h6gp2 wrote

This is to protect staff. I know numerous schools in the area that nearly went virtual over the past two weeks due to staff illness.

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Trout-Population t1_j0htvn5 wrote

This should honestly be through the entirety of cold and flu season. The amount of teachers getting sick this year already is outrageous. Unless we want teacher sicknesses to get so bad we have to go back to virtual again, masking should continue through March or April.

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elefantsblue t1_j0lexla wrote

Why don’t the teachers wear masks then?

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Trout-Population t1_j0lf4ny wrote

I mean, 1. Many of them do, 2. That's not really how masks work, they prevent you from getting a sickness you have, not the other way around, and 3. Kids are little virus factories, while adults spread far less illness.

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RipTide275 t1_j0lgoi0 wrote

Masks don’t work.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j0pjtje wrote

Obviously. Otherwise COVID wouldn't be so widespread. Masks observably failed to prevent the spread.

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elefantsblue t1_j0lf9d9 wrote

Right, so if it’s a staff issue, have staff wear masks.

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Fstmiddy t1_j0hlbx6 wrote

Probably for the best.

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IrresponsibleScience t1_j0j6kjn wrote

Schools are cesspools for infectious disease. My school teacher friend has gotten sick 4 times this semester teaching 1st graders. Once being Covid too.

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drewbaccaAWD t1_j0k2ae9 wrote

Makes sense to me. Kids aren't learning if there's an outbreak causing half of them to call off for a week. I'm sure rightwing partisans will roll their eyes but would you rather do everything in our power to mitigate the spread and otherwise go to school as normal or would you rather we have to start the home schooling shit again when a good chunk of the population falls ill at once?

An ounce of prevention can pay off with significant benefits and avoid a much worse outcome.

To anyone who would say "masks don't work at all," get away from your facebook memes and look up some actual peer-reviewed studies on the topic. We aren't doing this for fun; it makes a difference. For example, we saw a significant reduction in flu cases during all the Covid restrictions; there's data that virus concentrations are reduced (no, flu is not covid, but we have decades of data and trends to analyze there).

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0lxvg3 wrote

What is this "much worse outcome" that you are speaking of?

Do you think there are any detrimental effects for children wearing masks in school? Any unintended consequences?

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drewbaccaAWD t1_j0m0x12 wrote

I know, we're barbarians... we also make them wear shoes, shirts, etc. We're monsters.

I'm not arguing with stupid.

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MrJacks0n t1_j0jbef2 wrote

Good idea, but it's going to go over like a lead balloon.

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jkman61494 t1_j0k3zta wrote

Brilliant idea honestly. Wish it was more.

My kindergarten daughter who was coming from a daycare that’s a germ pool. Just since August.

—got Covid for the first time 4 days into the school year

—got a virus where she had snot coming out her eyeballs

—got a stomach bug

—got another creepy crud cold

—got another stomach virus.

That’s just 4 months. It’s insane this year. Add to it my toddler who had borderline RSV and Flu-B this fall.

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PayEmmy t1_j0li0e5 wrote

What is borderline RSV and flu? I thought you were either infected or you're not infected?

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jkman61494 t1_j0lugqf wrote

RSV is basically a respiratory issue. My sons oxygen level was 1% higher to the point they’d classify it as RSV. However what I forgot to mention is he WAS classified after some tests as having low grade pneumonia

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susinpgh t1_j0lti9g wrote

Oh man, that sounds really terrible!

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RipTide275 t1_j0lgzhg wrote

That’s because she spent basically her whole life masked and isolated from other kids. She hasn’t built up her immune system.

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shadowstar36 t1_j0lodfr wrote

Yep. All that social distancing (which they made up the whole 6' number) and lockdown/closures, really did a number on kids immune system, let alone mental and social health. It sucked that it felt like a cult. Especially the people who pushed for censorhip (a lot of people on reddit are all for censorhip, deplatforming, and corporate and gov authoritarianism)

I know some of the measures were needed, but the censorhip of doctors and health professionals was crazy. Also the cult like mentality to label people basically heretics if they disagreed.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0lxk46 wrote

I think people who prefer wearing masks and children wearing masks generally live in a small echo chamber of like minded people. This mask wearing in school has had a detrimental effect on young children, particularly those with special needs.

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ZebZ OP t1_j0ly9ba wrote

I don't think wearing masks for a few days following a holiday in the middle of a Covid resurgence and major flu and RSV outbreaks is unreasonable.

Nobody is proposing wearing them full time again.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0lzsda wrote

It's not a few days, it's 10 days.

This should be a parental choice matter, I love my 8 year old special needs daughter more than I love anything in the world. Wearing a mask does more harm than good for my daughter.

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ZebZ OP t1_j0m0qo3 wrote

10 days out of a 180-day school year. Students will have 94.5% of the school year without a mask.

Not everyone is going to love or benefit from every policy. They have to be made to benefit the staff and student body as a whole, and this is a clear benefit. Parents of kids who need exceptions can always work with the school administrators to accommodate them under the ADA.

School boards are elected bodies. If you don't like how a district is run, do something about it.

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NEBook_Worm t1_j0pjz7i wrote

If it's dangerous enough masks are needed, children simply shouldn't be in school. They should learn remotely.

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Tough_Construction68 t1_j0hzvve wrote

This should be a thing even if covid isn't involved. Even just the flu can be dangerous to some, and you never know if someone close to you has an autoimmune deficiency and can't get vaccinated. Kids carry SOOOOOOOOO many diseases.

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MacDynamite71 t1_j0j8p1e wrote

Same with my Son’s school. Better safe than sorry

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susinpgh t1_j0lufec wrote

A quick note: The CDC is recommending masking again:

https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/3771708-cdc-urges-masking-return-as-tripledemic-surges/

Masking does work, and is best if you can use N95 or KN95. Cloth masks aren't as effective.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0lxo2g wrote

How many times does the CDC have to be proven wrong before people start to question their recommendations?

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susinpgh t1_j0lzowe wrote

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3693002-trump-white-house-officials-interfered-with-cdc-guidance-for-political-purposes/

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0mgbyv wrote

This knee jerk let's blame trump and refuse to accept any responsibility for our mistakes is such revisionist history.

https://www.ft.com/content/d482491f-ed0b-41fd-ab63-195cd195b082

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tyrael459 t1_j0nkrsa wrote

I agree with you on the Trump thing, but I also think you should follow your own advice about blanket statements.

The CDC is full of people who are working damn hard to do their best at providing good guidance to save the most lives. At the start of the pandemic, they were using the little knowledge available to do what they thought best.

It’s easy to criticize after the fact. They were definitely too draconian with some stuff. The 6-foot thing for an airborne virus is obviously ridiculous. Schools should have reopened sooner. And their messaging over vaccines was way too hopeful and allowed people to twist it as vaccine=never going to catch Covid, which anyone with an ounce of intellect could’ve guessed wasn’t going to be the case even with a highly effective vaccine.

But high-quality masks do work IF you wear them properly and consistently. Do kids do that? Nope.

But we all need to stop taking these far positions on everything, especially those of us who can be big enough to admit that very few issues are so cut and dry.

Anyway, you seem intelligent, so it just kinda sucked to see you throwing unequivocal shade on an organization that largely does some amazing stuff alongside some mistakes, with guidance evolving as more information is learned.

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Matt-33-205 t1_j0o2vqd wrote

I understand what you're saying, you make some valid points. However, it was the CDC who initially said the vaccine would prevent both contracting the virus and spreading the virus, I saw multiple videos in which Rochelle walensky and Tony fauci said this directly. Fauci also said early on that masks would be virtually useless in preventing the spread, then he said everyone should wear a mask, then he said people should wear 2 masks. The science didn't change, the messaging did. There are definitely good people at the CDC, but leadership is clearly hyper political and intermingled with big Pharma.

I'd like to think the CDC was just incompetent, but their manipulation of data and highly inconsistent messenging is very concerning. It needs to be investigated.

I'm not hyper partisan at all. I listen to reasonable intelligent people with an open mind. If you had to put me in a box, I'd call myself a libertarian. I think Trump is a buffoon, I also think Joe Biden is a buffoon and is often incoherent. It's stunning to me that these two men both became president of the United States.

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tyrael459 t1_j0pkg5b wrote

I agree on the messaging of the vaccine. I don’t know if it was some people being overly optimistic or if it was intentionally misleading in hopes of getting more people to take the vaccine immediately. I do think there was an honest thought in the scientific community that if enough of the population could be vaccinated in a very tight window, perhaps we had a shot at slowing or even stopping Covid. But realities of the world and vaccine distribution should have made those people publicly acknowledge that such a feat was basically impossible. They should have been very honest up front what the vaccine was most likely to do: Keep you out of the hospital, and giving people most at risk a better chance at weathering bouts of the illness.

If they would have pitched it much like the flu shot, (which it really is, just for Covid) I think people would more more understanding of the situation we find ourselves in and we’d be seeing less of the absolutely bonkers conspiracy theories from the fringes.

Personally, I don’t want my tax dollars going towards beating a dead horse like Fauci over and over again through investigations and hearings for the next 2 years. His missteps with masks were avoidable and unfortunate. As anyone in the medical field will tell you about masks, bottom line: Yea, a high-quality mask like an n95 or kn95 will help you IF you wear it properly and consistently, especially if everyone in the room does the same. But reality doesn’t usually result in situations like that. People wear them under their nose, they take them off to scratch, they touch them with their hands constantly, etc. Basically makes the whole point null. And cloth masks don’t do much.

Should’ve just leveled with that stuff from the start. Our leaders here and across the world bungled the response and messaging, and in doing so they created fertile ground for conspiracies and gullible people to question science and medicine anew.

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xxl_gal t1_j0pgwz4 wrote

Only 10 days? wtf

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Outrageous_Cod_8141 t1_j0qevyr wrote

How long do you want them to wear it for? The pandemic is over for the most part.

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xxl_gal t1_j0qp8le wrote

The pandemic is NOT over. We need common sense rules to keep people safe.

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Outrageous_Cod_8141 t1_j0qv5po wrote

Kids don’t need or want to be wearing masks anymore especially if their vaccinated. But I can tell your obsessed with masks judging by you avatar. If you want to live the rest of your life with a mask on your face go for it.

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kuweiyox t1_j0j83qs wrote

I'm cool with this. My issue is that students got out early today and instead of learning this from the school, I'm learning this on Reddit.

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bambiying t1_j0pt66z wrote

I'm staff and we learned about it on Facebook. The SDP doesn't tell anyone anything.

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kuweiyox t1_j0pvsxw wrote

That's horrible. You guys deserve so much better

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RipTide275 t1_j0lg26q wrote

Dems are masking your kids and going to make schools virtual again. They hate your kids.

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[deleted] t1_j0ktd3x wrote

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PadishahEmperor t1_j0kyjuc wrote

Masks do work. There are new flu and other viruses around which there has not been time to develop herd immunity. You are a dumb person.

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stahleo t1_j0k0fkb wrote

Trust the "science" /s

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MajinSkull t1_j0laloc wrote

❄️❄️❄️

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stahleo t1_j0lce65 wrote

Says the person that blindly follows whatever the "science" says. Stay in your bubble and let the rest of us live our lives.

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ZongMeHoff t1_j0jmswq wrote

Was this advice from phizer? Seems like their dirty lies are starting to come out. And what's up with the CDC now admitting that masks don't work?

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HeyZuesHChrist t1_j0krqw4 wrote

The correct mask works. It’s cloth masks that make almost no impact. If they are going to do this then the masks needs to be n95 or something comparable if there is something. Those will help to stop the spread of viruses.

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RipTide275 t1_j0lh6on wrote

98% of kids wear cloth masks and they are 6 year olds. The people on here who think masking children is effective are beyond stupid

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susinpgh t1_j0lt7j0 wrote

Where in the world did you get that? The CDC is recommending masks right now in indoor public spaces because of the three respiratory viruses going around.

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ZongMeHoff t1_j0m2gjg wrote

Funny how those same masks can't even stop drywall dust from entering my nose and lungs. How in the heck does it stop a microscopic virus? I truly hope you are smarter than your comment is showing...

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ZongMeHoff t1_j0m351h wrote

The CDC, WHO, BILL GATES, DR FAUCI, BIG PHARMA and the MEDIA, all LIED about Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin , so they could get an (EUA) emergency use authorization. Both of these medicines have been available for decades, Ivermectin has won a Nobel Peace Prize and is safe to use, but we weren't allowed to try it for Covid? Both are in the WHO MODEL LIST OF ESSENTIAL MEDICINES try looking a litter deeper into things rather than click bait media...

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susinpgh t1_j0mjh42 wrote

What are you even talking about? I just posted an article saying that the CDC has just recommended masks for indoor use. You want to move goal posts, fine. But I ain't playing your game.

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[deleted] t1_j0h2opj wrote

Lmfao

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ManfredsJuicedBalls t1_j0ixcdb wrote

Why so triggered over a mask?

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[deleted] t1_j0ixu81 wrote

Triggered is now…..laughing at something? Wtf? My kids aren’t in those schools I don’t really care I just find it funny.

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ManfredsJuicedBalls t1_j0j0u3c wrote

So you’re triggered over a mask. Why?

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[deleted] t1_j0j44c4 wrote

Not all there upstairs huh?

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ManfredsJuicedBalls t1_j0j4cvf wrote

Why are you talking about yourself?

So again , why so triggered over a mask?

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ManfredsJuicedBalls t1_j0mbohm wrote

Nah, I’m sure you can find someone else to “ligma balls”

Downvotes are proof the triggered don’t like getting called out on their stances on laughing at people with masks

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stahleo t1_j0k0ig0 wrote

You're a very stupid person.

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