Submitted by Open_Veins_8 t3_zl9ek6 in Pennsylvania
TreeMac12 t1_j07fuct wrote
Reply to comment by Muscadine76 in Temple University Launches Cutting Edge Center to Fight Racism by Open_Veins_8
Also from the article...
"The inspiration for the proactive approach to address prejudice and bigotry was brought to life...following the murders of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor in 2020.'
Was Breonna Taylor ruled a murder?
from the NYT, two days ago:
"No officer has ever been charged with shooting Ms. Taylor"
https://www.nytimes.com/article/breonna-taylor-police.html
How does this make it past a proofreader?
Muscadine76 t1_j07x8be wrote
Given that part of the whole BLM/racial l-justice-in-policing critique is that police are often protected from prosecution, and given that many people consider Taylor’s death to be a murder, I’m not sure of your point here other than to argue semantics.
TreeMac12 t1_j085gsn wrote
>many people consider Taylor’s death to be a murder
Semantics? Murder is a legal term with a very specific meaning. Just because "many people consider' something doesn't make it true. In fact, calling someone a murderer when they have not been convicted of it opens you up to charges of defamation.
It's the reason Kyle Rittenhouse will be a multi-millionaire soon.
The Bucks County Beacon should know better. That's my point.
Muscadine76 t1_j09hq79 wrote
So, you are wanting to argue about semantics then, yeah. The meaning people ascribe to words. You are asserting one meaning but it’s not the only meaning, as your own source explores. Did you even read the article you linked to?
Stating someone is a murderer is a direct accusation and as the article you linked to states, it might be grounds for defamation. But especially if it’s not an organization that would just rather settle its not clear suing against even a direct accusation would be successful.
But that’s also different from describing a person’s death as “a murder”. Saying you believe a person’s death was a murder or is best described as a murder isn’t clearly grounds for defamation at all.
In addition, as your article states, even if we’re talking about direct accusations “legal standard” isn’t the only understood meaning:
> If we assume for now that the term "murder" refers to the intentional killing of another person without justification, a private person may look at the situation and reach the conclusion the officers acted without justification when they shot and killed Breonna Taylor…
> Additionally, it could be argued that the gist of being called a murderer isn’t an accusation the officers committed the crime of murder. Rather, the essence of the accusation is that the officers intentionally shot at Taylor and her boyfriend, killing Taylor for no good reason.
> Many people genuinely believe there was no justification for killing Taylor, even if it is determined there was a justification under the law.
TreeMac12 t1_j09nbb8 wrote
It’s not semantics, it’s the actual dictionary definition: to kill (a human being) unlawfully and with premeditated malice.
A publisher should be aware of this before publishing. Her killing, while awful, does not meet this definition.
Level-Adventurous t1_j0a0vv3 wrote
While your looking in that dictionary of yours look up semantics
Muscadine76 t1_j0b919j wrote
>It’s not semantics, it’s the actual dictionary definition
Bless your heart.
TreeMac12 t1_j0bejmh wrote
This is what’s wrong with modern journalism. Words don’t have objective meanings, only feelings.
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