Submitted by gvillepa t3_zymwfs in Pennsylvania
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Quicklyquigly t1_j27ey8o wrote
So, second highest gas prices in county, second highest property taxes, extreme beurocracy, and lowest wages. Gee. I wonder why people/ businesses don’t want to stay or move here.
What are we getting for all this money? No, seriously. NY, CA costs with OH WV quality of life. Not going to cut it.
CBScott7 t1_j27fm78 wrote
So if we all vote Democrats into power, they will actually do something to fix it, right?
TecNoir98 t1_j27jcwz wrote
The public is eventually going to have to start framing politicians' inaction as violence.
Donotaskmedontellme t1_j27kqjr wrote
Last I checked Democrats just took office
atlashoth t1_j27kwtt wrote
And it all gets worse and nothing is fixed.
maxwellington97 t1_j27npqx wrote
Not for a few more days
dpo466321 t1_j27o6v9 wrote
Wages for our legislatures goes up with inflation though!
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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j27uka9 wrote
Anybody venture a wild guess about who might be in charge of the PA state legislature?
SnazzyAdam t1_j27vpka wrote
I remember when I got my first Job at 15 at a brand new Wegman's coming to the area. It was RIGHT before the minimum wage went up from $6.25 to $7.15... in 2007. When it happened, I was really excited!
Because I was 15...
The real kicker is that Wegman's was supposed to be like a "luxury" grocery store. I left Wegman's for Walmart 8 months later and got a $2.50 an hour increase at Walmart for the same cashier role.
PPQue6 t1_j27wnb1 wrote
You know it's funny I used to think that Giant Eagle was cheaper until I started going to Wegmans...I wish I would have gone there sooner.
PPQue6 t1_j27wqvn wrote
And also not in the Senate. Not to mention the last I knew was that control of the PA house was still in the air.
CraWLee t1_j27ycil wrote
But can't figure out why 40k people just up and left? 😂 Oh brother... The hits just keep on coming...
toadfan64 t1_j27zuur wrote
So what are the odds of it actually changing once the dems take office? Cause don't the republicans still hold the PA House?
tempestveil t1_j28564v wrote
and we never will!
PivotalPosture t1_j288abd wrote
Who actually pays minimum wage these days? When I was job hunting, the jobs were starting out at $10/hr minimum.
I saw a few that were $8.25, but that’s still above minimum wage.
Gas is down compared to a few months ago, I average $3.49 a gallon where I’m at.
Er3bus13 t1_j28c8hr wrote
Lol ..like they have a magic wand for thirty years of obstruction. Not in power yet..yup everything fixed.
Er3bus13 t1_j28ci88 wrote
The problem is it depresses all wages when it's so low. Really really need to have our schools teach critical thinking as 50% of the public don't understand causality. Wonder to which political spectrum they lean towards.
dippin20s t1_j28dwma wrote
but but but but go blubber and cry in a different room you dork. you people are insufferable
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el_goate t1_j28f0v0 wrote
Republicans hold the senate. It won’t change
irishhank t1_j28fn28 wrote
GOP still holds the senate. But yes, if they had control of house, senate, and governor the minimum wage would be raised in Pa. Unfortunately, the cancer in our state government still persists. Obstruction will be the goal of the state senate for at least the next 2 years. Gas taxes going up again Jan 1st thanks to republican governor Corbett and the white trash rubes’ favorite politicians in Harrisburg. But I’m sure it will all be dems fault.
MrP3rs0n t1_j28h521 wrote
Can’t wait to be part of that statistic after graduation
PatientNice t1_j28ko4i wrote
But their actions and inactions will be more exposed. It will be fun watching legislation be passed in the house and then shut down in the Senate. If it doesn’t change after that, we’ll, you can’t fix stupid.
Thecrawsome t1_j28kqg7 wrote
Well last you checked you were wrong
discogeek t1_j28kxdp wrote
Giant Eagle around here *IN ERIE* is more expensive than I used to pay when I lived in NYC.
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losiduh t1_j28layn wrote
Republicans have been in power for the past 10+ years in PA.
Kairenne t1_j28lcmq wrote
It’s contempt for the people. A new business moved into town. People were excited as it historically paid more than minimum wage. I personally heard the head of Chamber of Commerce tell insiders. Oh you don’t have to pay that much in this town. He was bragging I guess.
pipelayer5000jr t1_j28ltdz wrote
That's no surprise
torcsandantlers t1_j28midu wrote
Thank your nearest Republican state rep. https://keystonenewsroom.com/story/gop-refuses-to-raise-minimum-wage/
They've been blocking it for years, because poor people are desperate and desperate people are easier to convince to vote Republican.
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Christopher_Walkman t1_j28q53i wrote
maybe the private sector should take a lesson from them and push passing a law that requires their employers to pay them more based on rising inflation
Christopher_Walkman t1_j28qmqt wrote
organize with labor unions, push back against wage theft, press law makers to create wage protections that rise with inflation
nothing will get fixed if we don't fight
Christopher_Walkman t1_j28qwmb wrote
currently republicans, and also for the past decade, and they aim to hold that authority going all the way into may of 2023 by forcing special elections to take place halfway through the year
Cogatanu7CC95 t1_j28rhjb wrote
Yeah Republicans as always
--Cr1imsoN-- t1_j28s3we wrote
Can you clean a house in 5 minutes tops? Yeah, I didn’t think so.
Same applies to government.
KenMacMillan123 t1_j28sst9 wrote
Pennsylvania always matches the federal minimum wage
Radient-Astronaut779 t1_j28uj20 wrote
Slim to none. Democrats are historically terrible at getting things done
kellyb1985 t1_j28un8s wrote
... to be fair... Population losses don't necessarily mean people left Pennsylvania :-|
Numerous-Two-7550 t1_j28v4gl wrote
Thanks republicans for giving yourself a raise.
Numerous-Two-7550 t1_j28v8ld wrote
Just say BURGH a million times and people will forget they’re starving to death, that’ll do it!
-Ed Gainey
No-Setting9690 t1_j28vq23 wrote
>Republicans have been in power for the past 10+ years in PA.
This should have millions of up votes. This is the answer right here. For all the complaining Republicans do, they had all the ample time to fix anything. Nothing was fixed, nothing was done. But sure it's all Wolf's fault.
Imprettystrong t1_j28w0g3 wrote
PA really looking like a state run by clowns with that minimum wage.
DavidLieberMintz t1_j28wy57 wrote
This is the stupidest thing I've read all week.
threesimplewords t1_j28wzqb wrote
Is there a single business in the state paying minimum wage? While I'm sure they would if they could, the labor market is much too high at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few one off examples but I rarely see entry and low skill positions posted under $10
munkyxtc t1_j28xddb wrote
"Pennsylvania, we do just the bare minimum "
Don't really like the ring that has. Hopefully we don't put that on our welcome to PA signs
lehigh_larry t1_j28zcsq wrote
This is a non-issue. Nobody is only getting paid minimum wage. Even McDonald’s in Shamokin is paying $15/hr to start.
> Wage Distribution of All Hourly Workers
>• In 2021, there were an estimated 63,800 Pennsylvania workers earning minimum wage or less. This is the lowest number of at or below minimum wage workers on record in this annual report series. It is 10,600 (14.2 percent) lower than the previous low of 2020 when it was 74,400. Workers earning minimum wage or less represented 2.0 percent of all hourly workers and 1.1 percent of all workers.
>• From 2020 to 2021, Pennsylvania’s hourly employment increased by 91,300 (+2.9 percent), while Pennsylvania’s overall employment increased by 26,200 (+0.4 percent). U.S. hourly employment increased by 2,807,000 (+3.8 percent), while the nation’s overall employment increased by 4,778,000 (+3.2 percent). The proportion of all workers receiving hourly rates in 2021 increased slightly in both Pennsylvania and the nation from 2020. In 2021, the percentage of the employed earning hourly rates was higher in Pennsylvania (55 percent) than in the U.S. overall (50 percent).
>• In 2021, there were an estimated 586,000 Pennsylvania workers earning near minimum wage ($7.26-$12.00). This was 107,100 (-15.4 percent) lower than in 2020 when it was 693,100.
>• Labor markets in the U.S. and Pennsylvania continued rebounding in both employment and wages from the pandemic-induced recession. The increase in employment and hourly workers was concentrated in higher wage workers which contributed to both the absolute and relative changes in the wage distribution. The volumes and proportions of hourly workers in the lower wage categories fell, while increasing for those above $12.00 an hour. The median wage in Pennsylvania increased from $16.50 in 2020 to $17.00 in 2021, while it rose from $16.32 to $17.00 in the nation.
>• Pennsylvania had a higher percentage (2.0 percent) of workers at or below the federal minimum wage of $7.25 than the nation (1.4 percent). About six out of every 10 wage earners in both Pennsylvania and the U.S. were in the highest wage category (of above $15.00). Pennsylvania’s share of wage earners in this category rose by 2.1 percentage points to 59.0 percent, while the nation’s percentage rose 3.9 percentage points to 60.0 percent.
Deerbooty t1_j28zdnh wrote
Cringe man. How is West Virginia legalizing weed and have a higher min. wage?!
lehigh_larry t1_j28zjlu wrote
No it doesn’t. Competition for workers has driven wages way higher. It’s a totally irrelevant number because no one is actually paying that or making that.
jlando40 t1_j28ztsa wrote
Shocker
drxdrg08 t1_j2905bo wrote
According to official statistics, about 0.1% of people that are not young people earn minimum wage.
And it's most likely part-time positions that would have been volunteering positions but can't be for various legal reasons, so they pay minimum wage.
This minimum wage battle is a sham, like most things in politics. It just pits not so smart people against each other from both sides and keeps them busy fighting each other.
beeps-n-boops t1_j290sd8 wrote
They should tie all public-sector wages to the (edit: private)-sector minimum wage.
Guaranteed to go up then.
IrresponsibleScience t1_j291xid wrote
I’m for Democrats but I also doubt there will be much change to be honest.
Dredly t1_j293tcs wrote
Since 1980 ish
Er3bus13 t1_j295gym wrote
Why have a full time legislature then?
PPQue6 t1_j295t80 wrote
Absolutely wild!
OozeAndOz t1_j296ues wrote
What a shocker. What a joke. Can't wait to get out of here.
yeags86 t1_j299x3w wrote
Sure, that’s a valid statistic. How many people are getting a dollar or less above minimum though? I think that would provide a much clearer picture.
thenewtbaron t1_j29cgjb wrote
Been republicans since atleast like 1990's. There was one moment that the dems got in but mostly republicans. Yet, for some reason all those hick folks blame democrats... like bud they can't do anything because they are the minority... and you keep voting for the same person... and yet you wonder why nothing has changed.
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DirtyHippyBastard t1_j29e4dg wrote
Keep voting for the two corporate supported parties and I’m sure things will change. One is definitely better than the other at pretending to be wanting to do something, but never really doing anything.
DirtyHippyBastard t1_j29e8gv wrote
Right. No Democrats voted for it.
julietteskyerose t1_j29f2qk wrote
Taco Bell and Wendy’s are raising their wages anyways because no one can live off of $7 hell even $10. Just saw $16 at my local Wendy’s. They need to make it official
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That_Girl_Cray t1_j29h563 wrote
You can thank the Republicans for that. It's a disgrace.
fugazishirt t1_j29ie2r wrote
This is very true. In my sector (healthcare) wages have been stagnant for years.
Alternative-Flan2869 t1_j29j4ho wrote
(Yes - a rhetorical question.)
RussianChiChi t1_j29j9go wrote
This is just unacceptable. That’s it. Do not accept this. We will NOT be told that we don’t deserve enough money to keep up with inflation.
I WILL RIOT BEFORE LETTING MY FAMILY STARVE BECAUSE CORPOS WANT MILLIONS MORE.
If the min wage isn’t raised here 2023. Protest. Disobey. Shop lift. Do whatever it takes to keep YOUR family fed. The heat on. Gas in your car. Whatever.
Republicans and democrats have too much control over our lives. They don’t have the people of Pennsylvania in their minds.
Their time for accountability will come. Gen Z will make heads roll.
Libsoccer20 t1_j29kato wrote
True. From my understanding only one Democrat doesn't take the raises.
Fluid-Wrongdoer6120 t1_j29llqt wrote
if it had no impact like you imply, I can't imagine why republicans are fighting so hard against raising it?
sx70forlifexx t1_j29ri02 wrote
This is what republican state looks like
CraWLee t1_j2a9ett wrote
Look at every major city and states with high pop, they've all had mass exoduses, NYC has had one for the last twenty years almost.
CraWLee t1_j2a9lu7 wrote
Always remember where you came from.
kellyb1985 t1_j2agoqd wrote
I don't think you got my joke. Population losses don't necessarily mean they go somewhere else. We DO have the 10th oldest average population
CraWLee t1_j2ah406 wrote
Yes I figured you were saying that, but this is numbers from people who up and left not those who pulled off the eternal escape.
atlashoth t1_j2an0uy wrote
Sounds like work for a grandfathered in busted system.
Pink_Slyvie t1_j2au4x7 wrote
At this point, we are nearing $25 an hour to catch up to when minimum wage had the most value.
Think about it, if you are making less then that, you are making less then your grandparents stocking grocery shelves in high school.
drxdrg08 t1_j2b6bzo wrote
Because a universal minimum wage is a fundamentally stupid idea.
Cost of living varies greatly across the state.
Federal worker salaries are adjusted for the area where the employee lives. That only makes sense. Private companies are starting to do the same with work-from-home arrangements if the employee moves away from high COLA locations.
drxdrg08 t1_j2b98m0 wrote
I can tell you that 30% of all people earning minimum wage or less had a household income over $100K.
Fluid-Wrongdoer6120 t1_j2bb13y wrote
if you say so, personally I'd say its a good way to keep desperate to work people from being taken advantage of. Everyone knows that COL varies by region but there's still a minimum that will get you by, even in the cheapest area
Jtk317 t1_j2bb9n3 wrote
Do we have a list of how they voted if any bills actually made it to the floor?
drxdrg08 t1_j2bs7as wrote
> good way to keep desperate to work people from being taken advantage of
This is not possible unless there is collusion between different employers. There was evidence of that happening with big Tech in Silicon Valley a while back, but there is no evidence of that ever happening in Pennsylvania.
Christopher_Walkman t1_j2ds6rn wrote
you got it babe, get to stepping
vogelsyn t1_j2eqy8q wrote
no one votes against their own pay raise.
PPQue6 t1_j26y4ii wrote
You can thank Republicans for that...