Submitted by HanSoloz t3_z5k24a in Pennsylvania
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixx7wxm wrote
Reply to comment by pnvrgnnltUdwn in 27 Pennridge teachers deride planned cut to Social Studies requirement by HanSoloz
Maybe you need a history lesson of all those countries in the past that removed history from the public square. It never ends well.
Have you ever been to Rome or Greece? They still have statues standing from thousands of years ago.
pnvrgnnltUdwn t1_ixx8l0l wrote
What like Germany? Iraq? Italy?
You’re just spouting garbage you Neanderthal
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixx8pf0 wrote
No like the Taliban.
pnvrgnnltUdwn t1_ixx9aqh wrote
They rose to power because we (The USA) trained them and gave them weapons.
What you call history is generational propaganda
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixx9vwb wrote
They were there long before we trained them to kill the Russians in the 70s. They just expanded their territory after Russia pulled out.
The same happened in Cambodia during the 70s. There they condemned the older people to slave labor and concentration camps because they knew the history.
BurghPuppies t1_iy0ez64 wrote
Also, I’d like to point out that the Taliban is still in power, since Trump & Pompeo surrendered Afghanistan to them. So I hasn’t “ended” for them at all.
bk1285 t1_ixxhulg wrote
Nah see there is a difference…those people will be remembered in history textbooks and museums where they belong, not to be celebrated in public squares or by having buildings named after them
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixxk3x4 wrote
Nah, the people that help create this country should be celebrated, taught about and remembered. There's a reason older generation had buildings and places named after them.
bk1285 t1_ixxlh1t wrote
No one who committed treason and took up arms against our country should be honored by having buildings or military installations named after them…the only honor they deserve would be having a latrine named after them. They should just consider themselves lucky the govt took a peaceful transition approach…every confederate should have been hung
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixyfv21 wrote
Who is talking about the Civil War. I'm talking about the people that made this country. You know Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln.
Oh and we needed the civil war to make it the US.
Alex1387 t1_ixyv8uw wrote
>who is talking about the civil war
>Mentions Lincoln
bk1285 t1_ixz3ite wrote
Who is taking Jefferson or Washington’s name off of anything?
You realize Lincoln was like almost a 100 years later than Washington and Jefferson right?
We didn’t need a civil war, the south choose to have one. If anything the southern states got off extremely lightly
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixz4gdt wrote
The Civil war was necessary to form the US. Any new States added the North wanted to prevent them from allowing them to become slave states.
Yes Im aware of the gap between the Revolution and the Civil war.
Jefferson was already removed from a school in NJ and of all colleges UVA is trying to remove his name (the college was founded by Jefferson)
San Franciscos board of Ed is removing both names George Washington and Jefferson off of buildings.
bk1285 t1_ixza831 wrote
What is wrong with the north wanting to prevent new states that were added from being space states?
You realize the civil war was the founders fault…they did the equivalent of “fuck it the next person in can deal with this mess”
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixzc0ix wrote
I'm well aware of the why's.
bk1285 t1_ixzc61e wrote
And don’t go pinning the civil war on the north, it was the south who was the aggressor…it was the south who decried every effort made and became hypocrites
Advanced-Guard-4468 t1_ixze9yu wrote
Again, its your projection. The North said enough with the slavery, even though at the time states like NJ still allowed slavery
bk1285 t1_ixzh1z3 wrote
The country never outlawed slavery as a whole until the 13th amendment…hell space states fought for the north. The border states even after the emancipation proclamation were allowed to keep their slaves as that only applied to states in rebellion to the government. Yes individual states in the north ended slavery but it wasn’t on the whole. The south became a little bitch and afraid that Lincoln would end slavery and tried to leave the union and opened war on the north. Hell for the first almost 2 years of the war, the south would have been able to rejoin the union without losing slavery…the south is the ones who in the end made it all about slavery but that’s just revisionist history on the losers part. The confederacy was a bunch of whiny brats
susinpgh t1_ixzmbe0 wrote
I read something the other day about some laws still being on the books because they only apply to prisoners. They kept those so that legally they don't have to pay for prison labor.
OhioJeeper t1_ixyzxr2 wrote
Hard disagree, John Brown was hung for treason.
This simple "everyone is either all good or all bad" type of thinking is exactly why we shouldn't be cutting education requirements in history and civics lol.
noonehomenow t1_ixxyaed wrote
History is to be learned from. Whether you like it or not it's there , you can't change it., rewrite or reinterpret it. It is what it is.
bk1285 t1_ixz3mo8 wrote
Hence their names stay where they belong, in history books and museums. Not on buildings and parks
BurghPuppies t1_iy0etmy wrote
LOL, what? Tell me about all these countries who “removed history from the public square”, and how it precipitated their downfall. Please cite cause & effect, not just two unrelated facts. Also… please make them actual facts. I know ya’ll struggle with that.
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