Submitted by Open_Veins_8 t3_z269tb in Pennsylvania
IrrumaboMalum t1_ixfxy8q wrote
Reply to comment by zorionek0 in Pennsylvanians Can’t Afford to Ignore Judicial Elections in 2023 by Open_Veins_8
I'd be much happier if the Democrats weren't also going after rights every freaking year.
It's so hard for someone who cares about civil rights to support either party in this state.
ell0bo t1_ixg9nqq wrote
Lol. What rights did dems go after?
25Bam_vixx t1_ixhfcng wrote
His right to be like Orange dump- “tElliNg like iT Is” without actual facts backing them up except their own internal knowledge lol
IrrumaboMalum t1_ixgaqve wrote
Hate speech laws with such a broad and vague interpretation that almost anything could end up classified as hate speech to violate the 1st Amendment, gun control laws that violate the 2nd Amendment, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution and Article 1, Section 21 of the Pennsylvania Constitution and red flag laws that are clear violations of the 4th, 5th and 6th Amendments.
If a person cares at all for civil rights in general, they cannot support either party in good conscience as each party is seeking to violate civil rights in some capacity.
zorionek0 t1_ixheu8j wrote
You know how I avoid worrying about my right to hate speech? By not being a hateful bigot.
ell0bo t1_ixhghgl wrote
Um, what hate speech laws? Surely you're not conflating a private company with the government? So... that strawman is an interesting setup for thr second half.
So, don't agree with you at all about gun laws violating the check list of of rights you've laid out, but let's say you're right. How do you handle gun violence? People just need to die so you can feel free?
IamSauerKraut t1_ixhinjx wrote
Don't worry about the 1st Amendment. The ACLU and/or F.I.R.E. will file suit on any legislation they find problematic.
Red flag laws do not impinge on the rights of law abiding Americans.
SpectacledReprobate t1_ixgaoin wrote
It’s not hard at all.
You walk into the voting booth, you fill in all the little bubbles with names with (Democratic Party) next to them.
Then you cast your ballot and walk out.
And then, you don’t try and bullshit people about Democrats being the same as people that are open about wanting to murder their way out of every problem this country has.
I don’t like Dems stance on guns either but it’s got nothing on the genocidal rage that Rs have had for decades.
IrrumaboMalum t1_ixgbc3j wrote
Why would I vote for any politician seeking to systematically undermine our civil rights?
Give me one good reason to support Democrats without pointing to the Republicans and saying "they're worse."
IamSauerKraut t1_ixhiutg wrote
>Why would I vote for any politician seeking to systematically undermine our civil rights?
Since you clearly vote republican, you already know the answer.
IrrumaboMalum t1_ixyvlxa wrote
I do not vote Republican.
SpectacledReprobate t1_ixir57s wrote
> Why would I vote for any politician seeking to systematically undermine our civil rights?
Trying to sell the Dems’ stance on guns as “undermining civil rights” is gonna gut the “pro-gun” movement from bow to stern.
It’s exactly the kind of obnoxious, level 10000 dumbfuckery that all of us-even lifelong gun enthusiasts-have fucking had it with. Grow up.
> Give me one good reason to support Democrats without pointing to the Republicans and saying “they’re worse.”
You do realize that this question is you admitting to everything I just said, right?
Straight-up admitting you can’t defend R bullshit, but trying to cover it in the form of a “question”.
You’re better at making my points than I am, god damn.
_Abobo t1_ixmr1x3 wrote
The dems stance on guns is asinine and founded on emotions to appeal instead of any data. The democrats invented a scary term and completely fabricated talking points around “weapons of war”. They actively conflate stats and anecdotes to suggest as narrative that isn’t there. Top democrats actively lie and misrepresent objective facts about guns. As a life long gun owner, this should be pretty basic deduction. HR 1808 is the reason I went independent from D for the first time in my life. If The dems drop this virtue signaling facade, they’d clean up nationally and especially in PA.
IrrumaboMalum t1_ixyvioy wrote
Well for starters I'm not a Republican and I'm certainly not defending their bullshit. In fact I criticized both parties just in this thread.
I know the idea that someone can oppose both Democrats and Republicans is a foreign concept to you.
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