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ggtt555 OP t1_ix66p4j wrote

I work overnight and would prefer to not have to work 12 hour shifts when im scheduled for 8, maybe thats just me though 🤷‍♂️

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nnnosebleed t1_ix67c2a wrote

Legally, they probably can't write you up for refusing to strain yourself. If they do, contact the labor board, they can probably answer these questions better than reddit, and if you're in the right, help you defend that.

and ignore this guy, nothing wrong with Life coming before work.

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ggtt555 OP t1_ix67vjt wrote

Ya thats reddit for ya 😂

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wvlurker t1_ix6e6hc wrote

When you say "contact the labor board," what do you mean? The PA Labor Relations Board only deals with disputes related to management and unions not covered by the NLRB, and if OP has a union, they shouldn't be coming here with questions they should be taking to their union instead. This advice is not helpful because the PLRB probably cannot help OP.

Legally, without a contract stating otherwise, your employer can absolutely fire you for refusing to work 12 if you're scheduled for 8. You'll get unemployment, sure, but they can fire you. The answer to this is right on theFAQ at the Department of Labor and Industry (question 5).

I agree that the mandate to work overtime is bullshit and hate that employers are allowed to get away with it, but that's labor law in just about every state in this country, PA included.

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vinnie5451 t1_ix6fav4 wrote

They don’t have to write him up they can just fire him as it’s an at will state and if they need someone who can work OT they are free to get rid of you and find someone who will

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RatRob t1_ix6dilq wrote

Oh look OP, this guy must be your dick head boss. Lol

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Skeeter-Pee t1_ix67a4t wrote

I would say if it isn’t a regular thing enjoy the OT pay and for being seen as a go to employee. Are you trying to work your way up or do you want a entry level position for a while. If you want to work your way up and make more money you gotta do the things others don’t want to sometimes. Hard work is usually rewarded and being rigid about your time off typically isn’t. Just my $.02

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jek39 t1_ix6826x wrote

on the flip side, being too much of a doormat about your time off is going to set a bad precedent. I believe in firmly setting those boundaries early. my time is my time. some employers will take whatever you give and more. It's certainly a balance game.

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ggtt555 OP t1_ix68scs wrote

Agree, if im scheduled to work for 8 hours ill work hard for that amount of time but wont want to stay longer, especially when im not trying to build a career at this company.

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jek39 t1_ix6b3tl wrote

absolutely. a lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency for you. that being said, if this is just a one time thing because someone else dropped the ball, I would personally probably stay the shift (assuming I'm not giving up something in my personal life to stay). if it's because they never plan correctly.... not my problem.

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ggtt555 OP t1_ix6ersb wrote

its a mixture of poor planning, understaffing, and the holidays so it isn't a one time thing, it's like a 2 month thing lol

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Skeeter-Pee t1_ix68feq wrote

With so many people refusing to do more than the minimum it’s easy to stand out anymore. Be flexible with your time while you earn OT and you’ll quickly advance. It’s never been easier to get ahead as so many people are “quiet quitting”.

Do you want to live paycheck to paycheck forever or risk being a doormat for a year or two to impress people and get ahead. Everyone will have a different view point.

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jek39 t1_ix6afsr wrote

yea of course. in some situations, that can absolutely be the right move to make. but I don't think refusing to work more hours than I agreed to has to mean I am suddenly living paycheck to paycheck. And I think once your boss sees you are a doormat there's no coming back from that. again just my opinion. that's just been my experience.

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ggtt555 OP t1_ix68ef2 wrote

I agree but this time of the year they want people to stay late pretty much every day because of poor decisions on management’s part aswell as understaffing so I don’t want to kill my self working my ass off on something that isn’t my fault. Plus to answer your question atm I don’t plan on working my way up in the company so im not super concerned about that, just wanted to know if im legally required to stay. Thanks

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candmjjjc t1_ix6a2g3 wrote

I do not believe you are legally required to stay. It sounds like they are not staffing correctly. That is the company's problem and not yours. No I cannot stay late is all the response you need to give them.

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