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ScienceWasLove t1_iv9iy20 wrote

Reply to comment by Eyesopen52 in NAACP Seeks Legal Relief from PA GOP Voter Suppression by Open_Veins_8

The regulations for mail in ballots says it should be dated. Just like most other official documents you sign that require a date.

Where in the constitution does it allow for mail in voting in general?

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thenewtbaron t1_iv9n3yq wrote

The signature on other offical forms are important for relaying the date that you agreed to a thing. Such as, if I transfer a car to you, the date that we both sign is the date that the car is now yours and your responsiblity. The same for a mortgage, that signature date is important to determine when you are responsible for the mortgage, and the start date of bills/taxes/interest.

What benefit does a signature on the 2nd outside envelope have? The date that you agreed to fill out the document and provide it? It already has a cut off date of election day. Notice ,they aren't talking about signing the ballot itself but an outside envelope. In most cases that envelope will be discarded, so the date is not maintained anywhere but there is no need to. The county will know the date they sent it, the general date they have received it, and that they have it before election day.

There is another concern, notice the PA supreme court also stated that "incorrectly" dated ballots must be separated out, however there is no definition of what "incorrect" means in the Supreme Court decision or the Law. Is mm/dd/yy ok, or does it have to be mm/dd/yyyy? Can you put "Nov" or do you have to put "November", what if someone misspells "November" is that incorrect since there is no month called "Novimber"

The Federal law does not allow states to bar votes for unrelated things other than ability to vote. Those laws came about when southerners decided to use Poll tests and various other poll related things to try to stop certain folks from voting.

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A nonsensical example would be if there was a law that every voter had to show a poll worker their feet before being able to cast a vote in-person. It maybe the law but that wouldn't mean it would make sense. Since owning feet isn't a prerequisite for voting.

Ah, so you are against soldiers voting? That will be a tough row to hoe but you can do that if you like. Soldiers have been voting by mail since like 1864.

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mcs0301 t1_iv9oxfo wrote

Great answer. Too bad the people that need to see it won't bother.

If you want Trumpanzees to follow you'll need lots of pictures.

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IsTh1sNameTaken t1_ivad6u4 wrote

> A nonsensical example would be if there was a law that every voter had to show a poll worker their feet before being able to cast a vote in-person.

[The corrupt] : "WHAT ABOUT SOMEONE WHO HAS BOTH FEET AMPUTATED!!???!!"

They would champion the rights of double-foot amputees, make it seem double-foot amputees were the majority, regulate/de-regulate systems and laws to the point of being ineffective gray-area legalese that can be manipulated in any direction for their benefit.

Manufacture a movement called DFALM (double-foot amputee lives matter) and funnel the donations into personal accounts, perhaps buy some mansions with the $$.

The corrupt will use their platform to silence or cancel anyone who disagrees or questions the extreme measures being taken in order to cater to all 3 people that exist that qualify as a double-foot amputee.

Those same 3 people look at each other and say, "... we've been fine voting on our own this whole time... why are you doing th-------- [[The Corrupt]] "SHUT UP, WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU!!!"

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ScienceWasLove t1_iv9yd92 wrote

I never said I was against soldiers voting. I never said I was against mail in voting.

I asked you where in the constitution it allows for mail in voting because you asked where in the constitution its says it must be dated.

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thenewtbaron t1_ivai1xt wrote

You didn't ask me anything.

Well, you do know that new laws are allowed beyond the constitution, infact, it is how the Republicans made this a law.

But generally the federal government can't do certain things to citizens, and it requires that states follow the same rules. Such as freedom of speech and the like. There are a couple of things about voting that the state can't do... One of which is turn away votes because of none needed details that are immaterial to the voting.

Once again, if we are using the feet pics to vote, would you also be for that requirement for mail in voting?

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ScienceWasLove t1_ivaw6mc wrote

I stand corrected. I was replying to the OP above which asked where in the constitution it says things must be dated.

It obviously doesn’t. Which is why he asked the rhetorical question.

It obviously doesn’t mandate mail in voting, which I why I also asked my rhetorical question.

The stupidness of his statement prompted the stupidness of my statement.

Obviously laws/policies and regulations dictate a whole variety of voting procedures from mail-in to in-person voting. All external to the constitution.

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Diarygirl t1_iv9tbwz wrote

As if a MAGA cares about the Construction.

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