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Mijbr090490 t1_iuz8x4q wrote

One is a Christofacist hellbent on turning pa into a theocracy and the other took down a shitload of kiddy diddling priests within the Catholic church. Need more?

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz9nc4 wrote

These are pretty good points. It's wild to see only senator ads, which is why I'm frustrated. Everything these politicians are running on should be wide spread by now. Even with fetterman and oz, without research all ive seen is smear and "I'm you buddy, trust me"

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orangesfwr t1_iuzh0tv wrote

You aren't seeing Mastriano ads because the guy is so bad he can't raise money. Even the right leaning Super PAC hit pieces against Fetterman are basically saying "Shapiro is ok but Fetterman is a far left wacko!!" because they know Shapiro will win and want to get people to "feel good" about being Shapiro/Oz voters.

Just visit their websites for their platforms and priorities.

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmkkk wrote

For a guy who cant raise money he sure has spent a ton on those cheap ass signs that blow all over the place any time the wind blows more than 10 mph.

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orangesfwr t1_iuznzx3 wrote

>Shapiro has reported $44 million in spending, including in-kind contributions, eclipsing the 2001-02 campaign spending record set by Democrat Ed Rendell of just under $42 million. He still has weeks left to add to that total.

>Mastriano, in turn, has reported spending of less than $3 million. Shapiro reported having $11 million still in the bank; Mastriano reported $2.6 million.

>Mastriano said Friday that he has not seen a dime of aid from the GOP’s counterpart organization, a frequent gripe of his.

You can thank Dick Uihlein for the sign money: >His biggest donor is the Midwest shipping supply magnate Dick Uihlein and his wife, who are large contributors to conservative causes and gave Mastriano $1 million.

https://whyy.org/articles/pa-midterm-elections-campaign-finance-record-broken-in-governor-race/

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bdschuler t1_iuz97up wrote

Where have you been?

From the web:

"Shapiro wants traditional debates. Mastriano says they’re unfair since they typically involve media representatives who hug Democrats and “trap” Republicans. He proposed debates run by the campaigns. Shapiro said, uh, no.

So, now Mastriano offers a “fair” debate. At a time and place of his own choosing, Oct. 22, Penn Harris Hotel, Camp Hill. With a moderator of his own choosing, Mercedes Schlapp, married to Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union which runs CPAC, the Conservative Political Action Committee. She’s a former White House aide and 2020 campaign aide to Mastriano-endorser, Donald Trump."

Basically one guy, Mastriano has a snow balls chance in hell of getting elected. Even die hard Republicans don't want to vote for a guy so filled with hate that he hates just about every group out there. Meanwhile, Democrat Josh Shapiro has been the PA Attorney General since 2017 and has an impressive record for fighting crime. It is the most lopsided race in decades and thus why nobody is really talking about it.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/09/pennsylvania-doug-mastriano-worst-candidate.html

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Kass626 OP t1_iuza3lk wrote

This is great information, thanks. Being able to blame the lack of a debate or honest debate on a single candidate helps. I'm not great at googling the perfect combo to find the right info, I end up reading so many articles, pages, and watching 15 minute videos to learn nothing.

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mattcrwi t1_iuzdazn wrote

You're not alone. Anything not national is hard to find good info.

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[deleted] t1_iv0rvdw wrote

> Anything not national is hard to find good info.

Which is annoying since local and state elections tend to be the more important ones.

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bdschuler t1_iuzhq8k wrote

You are very welcome. Yeah, the whole PA Gov race has been basically written off as over before it really even started.. so nobody is really doing any coverage, news stories, etc.. and even when they try.. it becomes a soapbox for just one person yelling conspiracy theories as even he knows he has no chance so he just wants his 15 mins of fame. So sadly you really can't find much information anywhere.

Glad I could answer why for you though and thank you for voting.

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmfae wrote

There are a ton of articles about the 2 PA guv candidates. It is not that difficult.

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dtcstylez10 t1_iv0doym wrote

Republicans still nominated him in the primaries though. Think about that.

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bdschuler t1_iv1is8v wrote

Well yeah, that was their whole problem. He is offensive enough that some people LOVE him and were willing to turn out for him in the primaries. Other candidates split the vote and didn't have as enthusiastic following of people who turned out.

The Republican party went so far as to beg people not to vote for him before the primary. So he won because of the situation. But his following is very small and thus, was out of the race before it even started. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/10/pennsylvania-republicans-stop-mastriano-00031607

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oldschoolskater t1_iuzk6y1 wrote

The dirty little secret is Republicans are completely fine with Shapiro. Republicans don't want to deal with polarization that comes with Mastriano. Republicans will control the state legislature. Shapiro will be the governor. They'll work together and be successful. Everyone wins.

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[deleted] t1_iv0s0ea wrote

> The dirty little secret is Republicans are completely fine with Shapiro

Is it even really a secret? The FOP is openly endorsing him, as are some other conservative leaning groups.

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kiddestructo t1_iuzntvs wrote

Interesting. Do you actually think there is that much sanity left?

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412Junglist t1_iuzz1sh wrote

No party is a monolith. The sensible ones have abandoned Mastriano.

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kerkuffles t1_iva2o83 wrote

It's how I plan on voting. Shapiro for governor, and republican down ticket.

Mastriano isn't the dude I want in the office. Shapiro isn't either, but he's "the lesser of two evils"...sigh

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PPQue6 t1_iuzm2p4 wrote

I want what you're smoking...

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmh45 wrote

He's smoking the truth. Pretty sure he'll share some with you.

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teamwybro t1_iv2l3hw wrote

>It is the most lopsided race in decades and thus why nobody is really talking about it.

So why am I still sick to my stomach at the thought of another '16 Surprise, waking up with Doug E. Treason as my state governor?

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bdschuler t1_iv3tsti wrote

Probably because you know anything can happen and also are aware that there are plenty of people who vote to destroy this country as a joke.

I always say if someone invents a phone booth that cures cancer and puts it out on a street corner.. some idiot would destroy it within a week just to show up those cancer patients and get a laugh. It is the society in which we live unfortunately.

Take solace though in that you would not be alone in thinking it would be among the worst things to ever happen to PA. A large majority would think that.. though only a fraction will actually take the time to vote to stop it from happening.

So your fear, uncertainty, and sick stomach will be common to many people living in PA come election night, mine included. The only good news.. one way or the other, it is almost over.

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Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_iuz8ffw wrote

What more do you need to know than Mastriano is an extremist who was on the Capitol grounds on Jan 6th, amongst other awful things he stands for.

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz8puq wrote

I want to know everything I can. It's shouldn't be a goose hunt to learn what all the politicians are running for.

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Impossible-Bit-5304 t1_iuz9t3k wrote

Mastriano is one of the most extreme Republicans running for office. He was caught on video praying for Trump to seize power before the attack on the Capitol. He has posed for pictures in a Confederate uniform. He want to outlaw gay marriage, and is against abortion even in the cases of mother’s life in danger, rape and/or incest. He is a candidate with zero redeeming qualities. And that is why he will lose big come Tuesday.

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Kass626 OP t1_iuza972 wrote

So far not I single Mastriano defense, probably gonna take your word for all of that.

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Er3bus13 t1_iuzi136 wrote

You are on the internet lol. How can you not find the answers for yourself?

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmp12 wrote

Because he is a pro-mastro troll pretending to be what he is: ignorant.

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmn1p wrote

Go to his freaking facebook pages! How freaking incompetent can you be??

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FreidasBoss t1_iuz8vb9 wrote

Wouldn’t their website detail their platforms?

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz9656 wrote

You'd think. Fettermans does pretty well, Oz' doesn't give more than two sentences on his opinions, and I really don't know anything about the governor candidates. It's nice to see how passionate they are about their policy's and if they'll stick to it when put on the spot.

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nesquiksand2 t1_iuz9stc wrote

Because they don't want you to know their opinions. They want you to think their opponent is bad, and that they are good. If you really knew his opinions and plans, you wouldn't want to vote for him.

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Kass626 OP t1_iuzaj30 wrote

Okay we're not gonna pretend that I don't understand the shit of our political system. Publicity by wealth, smear campaigns, and voting by blue vs red ruining our democratic integrity. It's not bad for me to call for more transparency.

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nesquiksand2 t1_iuzaye8 wrote

You're right, but don't you find it a bit odd that one side is trying to hide their plans?

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Kass626 OP t1_iuzb5a3 wrote

Oh yeah, no, that's bad for the Republicans in this election for sure.

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SamShephardsMustache t1_iuz8kid wrote

if you need a debate....fucking hell....

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz8uo1 wrote

? I'd take speeches I guess? Know where I can find real speeches?

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SamShephardsMustache t1_iuz9551 wrote

Mastriano is a treasonous, seditious fuck. Shapiro is one of the most effective AG's PA has ever had.

Mastriano is a christo-fascist. He is Christian sharia.

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz9ats wrote

I feel I can probably trust you, I just want to hear from them.

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SamShephardsMustache t1_iuz9izm wrote

Do you live in Pa? How can you not know any of this???

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Kass626 OP t1_iuz9q4e wrote

Westmoreland County. No one wants to talk politics, and I dunno do you only get this information on cable???

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EazyBucnE t1_iuzjugp wrote

If you need a debate in this race, I genuinely feel bad for you lmao

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[deleted] t1_iuz9r9n wrote

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Kass626 OP t1_iuzb0r4 wrote

Hm. Debates should definitely give longer response times, but thank you for the resources.

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IamSauerKraut t1_iuzmatd wrote

You complain about 2 different things. Debate never happened because dougie dingus is a coward. Info on Shapiro is everywhere. Only the dishonest claim they cannot find the info.

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katnapped t1_iv15me6 wrote

"Walk as free people", assuming you're white, Christian, male, Republican and rich. Otherwise we're coming to get you - Doug Masturbato.

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psc1919 t1_iuza6sz wrote

If refusing to debate is the criteria for not liking a candidate then vote Shapiro. Mastraino won’t debate. Glad I could help!

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Kass626 OP t1_iuzavq2 wrote

Certainly not a good light to have shown on you. Republicans are flip flopping to keep democrats down, but there's some things I don't like in the democratic party for me I'm generally trying to find a center left candidate but non affiliates aren't allowed to vote in Primary elections.

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psc1919 t1_iuzcylr wrote

? My point is Mastraino is the reason there is no debate. If that is important to you, blame him.

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Jammon152 t1_iuzgjba wrote

Josh Shapiro is center left, Doug Mastriano is far right

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P3as_And_Carrots t1_iv0a25l wrote

Not sure why you’re getting downvoted so much… I agree. It’s especially difficult to find a lot of information on local candidates.

Now as for Dougie and Shapiro… If you have lived in PA for many years and follow politics, there have been many articles over the years (and even more since last year) demonstrating what kind of person each candidate is. Each person has proven themselves through their actions and scandals (if any) over those years. There should be news articles from local sources out there somewhere. Also, looking at a candidate’s twitter history can help. Many of them are not bright enough to scorch bad twitter history.

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Kass626 OP t1_iv0qpog wrote

Thank you, this is my first local election and I just feel it should be easier to find tons of info.

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Alternative-Flan2869 t1_iv2dyy8 wrote

So Fetterman - an actual effective, experienced public servant - is vilified for recovering well from a stroke and messing up some words during his debate with a professional tv huckster BUT, this ignorant iwhite nationalist mastriano goes unchallenged for his refusal to debate an actual public servant. So typical cult coward behavior.

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BearPhilly t1_iuzb08b wrote

Weird Shapiro won't debate when even Fetterman did.

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Jammon152 t1_iuzgpge wrote

It was supposed to be the same debate stage as Fetterman (abc27) but Mastriano refused, broke tradition, and tried to set his own terms. Sad they couldn’t come to an agreement and debate

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