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nouveau_user t1_iuf3fqn wrote

"In the 2010s, the editorial tone of the paper shifted from liberal to conservative".

all you need to know. from the wiki page

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iuf4951 wrote

Oh, interesting. What do you think of the editorial?

"Mr. Fetterman’s health — he suffered a serious stroke in May — is not the issue. His lack of transparency, however, in refusing to release his medical records is troubling. It suggests an impulse to conceal and a mistrust of the people. All candidates for a major elected office should release their medical records, as did Mr. Oz. If you want privacy, don’t run for public office."

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No-Professional-1884 t1_iuf6cs9 wrote

So no issue with policy but the fact he did not produce medical records? How about they just say they are biased and would support Oz no matter what and call it a day.

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MisterJohnWinger t1_iufae1b wrote

Legitimate question. What is Fettermans policy on fracking?

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Odd_Description_2295 t1_iufzb3d wrote

Fetterman, when he was a braddock pa mayor, supported reverting brownfields (im assuming you know what those are? They are former industrial sites that require expensive mitigation to get them back to useable land space)to support braddock pa revenue. By allowing companies to drill on those former industrial sites, thus paying for mitigation. As well as taking steps toward using lng for steel making

This was left up to a town hall, abd the citizens of braddock rejected the lease offer. And that was the end of it. Fettermna stood behind his constituents choice.

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your_late t1_iufbld7 wrote

Frack if environmental concerns are dealt with

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No-Professional-1884 t1_iufmyjy wrote

There really is no safe way to frack. Nor should we be ravaging the natural resources of this state.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufc9tc wrote

"I do support fracking, and I don’t, I don’t — I support fracking, and I stand, and I do support fracking."

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LiveShape1335 t1_iufdmcx wrote

Stfu troll. It’s people like you ruining this great state.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufplpy wrote

Hi....good night!

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LiveShape1335 t1_iufv2pp wrote

Like I said, stfu troll

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufc23c wrote

Here's what the editorial said on policy:

>During Tuesday’s debate, after hundreds of thousands of votes had already been cast, voters finally learned something about where the candidates stood. They learned, among other things, that Mr. Oz opposes federal intervention in abortion rights, and Mr. Fetterman supports the broader Constitutional guarantees provided by the overturned Roe v. Wade decision. They learned Mr. Fetterman supports a federally mandated $15-an-hour minimum wage, and Mr. Oz wants market forces to raise wages. They learned both candidates support fracking. They also learned both men are politicians, as they ducked and dodged questions about why they had changed their minds on fracking.

Fetterman supports fracking? He should make that clear.

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nouveau_user t1_iuf8f2y wrote

typical "I'M jUsT ASking QheSTIOns HeRE!!" duck and hide from from the GQP. He's running for senate.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufabnf wrote

More from the editorial:

>"Mr. Fetterman’s life experience and maturity are also concerns. He has lived off his family’s money for much of his life. That has allowed him to do some good things, including mentoring disadvantaged young people and working to improve community policing and economic development in Braddock. That work, along with his six-foot-eight frame, shaved head and tattoos, attracted national media attention. Still, Mr. Fetterman, despite his hoodies and shorts, has little experience in holding real jobs or facing the problems of working people."

Ouch.

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your_late t1_iufbum1 wrote

Yeah, surely oz is well in touch with the average working person.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufptqo wrote

Yes, from all of his years as a heart surgeon.

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your_late t1_iufqjpe wrote

Man you really want to see something that just isn't there. The guy was sending emails to birx and kushner promoting hydroxychloroquine. He made the bulk of his wealth from quack cures that he knew did not work. He obviously doesn't even go grocery shopping. He only lives here now because he wants to be a senator. He owns more houses than most of us will live in. Vote for him if you want, but don't lie to yourself.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iuftnpa wrote

I hear he pays his property taxes. Unlike, ya know...

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your_late t1_iufuxzc wrote

Christ just look at what that was actually about instead of repeating bullshit from a commercial you saw. He ran a non profit that refurbished buildings in his formerly dilapidated run down town. That non profit missed some payments due to a clerical error and it's taken care of now. It wasn't personal taxes or tax evasion or anything. What a sin that you don't look beyond the surface of the bullshit.

Shit oz hasn't paid pa taxes because he didn't live here until this year.

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DoctorSteve t1_iug3vgs wrote

I highly, highly doubt he pays his taxes.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iug6qq5 wrote

I like all the evidence you provided.

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DoctorSteve t1_iug7jd1 wrote

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-senate-mehmet-oz-house-sale-tax-break-20221020.html

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iug9nrj wrote

Cool story about...Oz paying the taxes he owed.

Unlike Fetterman: "Senate candidate John Fetterman owed thousands in unpaid taxes, records show"

https://www.wtae.com/article/senate-candidate-john-fetterman-owed-thousands-in-unpaid-taxes-records-show/7479117#

"BRADDOCK, Pa. —
Action News Investigates has learned that Braddock Mayor John Fetterman, a candidate for the U.S. Senate, has a history of unpaid taxes.
Court records show dozens of tax liens filed against Fetterman and an organization he leads."

Whoops!

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timesyours t1_iuhdo96 wrote

Fetterman bought houses in Pennsylvania through nonprofit work for other people and the community. Oz bought houses in other states for himself.

Why doesn’t Oz release his PA state income tax filings and property tax filings for the last decade?

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Thecrawsome t1_iuhle7w wrote

Let's scale this up.

If he selectively overvalued and undervalued his assets to enrich himself, and laundered Russian money through his properties, and was born a billionaire, would that ascend him up to GOD EMPEROR status with you instead?

Unpaid taxes 😂 give me a break. Meanwhile your dear cult leader owes everything and was born with everything and is in court all the time for everything.

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hazeleyedwolff t1_iufoabm wrote

He presides over a legislative body, and he's trying to get a job on a legislative body. How is that experience not more relevant than whatever Dr. Celebrity Conman is bringing?

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufonq4 wrote

Sometimes he even showed up to work.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/fetterman-records-show-light-schedule-as-pa-lieutenant-gov/

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hazeleyedwolff t1_iufqplr wrote

I'm working 8 hours, but my schedule only shows 3 hours of meetings. It seems like this is just looking at his calendar availability. Also, now let's see how many 8 hour days Oz had presided over a legislative body.

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nouveau_user t1_iufca3x wrote

ooooh. you got me random internet person, now I'm going to vote for a television snake oil saleman from new jersey who only has their own interests in mind; because someday... someday I'll be just as rich as him and we'll be great friends!

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AngelAndInsect t1_iufcet6 wrote

>Still, Mr. Fetterman, despite his hoodies and shorts, has little experience in holding real jobs or facing the problems of working people."

I'm glad we're getting Dr. Oz instead. Held real jobs and faced problems of working people all his life!

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ZebZ t1_iujndoj wrote

Yet the same paper endorsed Trump, despite him not disclosing his taxes or business interests.

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Unethical_GOP t1_iufryfk wrote

Fuck the post gazette. Nobody read their BS anyway.

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Odd_Description_2295 t1_iufyqh5 wrote

Oz drinks his own piss

https://www.reddit.com/r/BadChoicesGoodStories/comments/yh6c49/dr_oz_likes_to_drink_his_own_piss/

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JBupp t1_iuj2k4i wrote

And he thinks it's a good topic to talk about. That says a lot.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufzhl7 wrote

You should combine this with your super-effective "crudite" campaign for certain success.

Have you thought about claiming Oz is from New Jersey? Try that!

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ThunderySleep t1_iuh88xu wrote

Fetterman looks like he drinks his own piss.

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LordKaraka12 t1_iuhzhkx wrote

Oz literally drank his own piss and yet you rubes will sit here and deny reality and try to put in on Fetterman. You can’t make this up….

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Dirtybrd t1_iufqab0 wrote

Republican paper endorses republican. This changes everything.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iuftilv wrote

I'll bet you dismissed the Philadelphia Inquirer endorsement of Fetterman, too.

The paper that declared Fetterman the winner of the debate.

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_iuglv0f wrote

The PG endorses Shapiro. You still clinging to this paper?

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iuhdkcx wrote

Sure. So it's not a right wing paper anymore?

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_iuhfbpk wrote

Absolutely owned by right wing and editorial staff still pushes right wing politics. If anything it shows that Douggie is more Q than anything.

I’ll never vote based on what a newspaper editorial tells me anyway.

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jmdunkle t1_iugeu6w wrote

It’s been interesting watching conservatives morph over the course of the last couple of decades from people with actual conservative ideals to easily-fleeced, simps for reality TV con-men, who also for some reason love fascism. An odd bunch.

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DementedDaveyMeltzer t1_iuirsha wrote

They didn't morph into anything. This is always who they were at their core. They just saw Trump say the quiet parts out loud and got tired of playing pretend.

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Gill03 t1_iughe4y wrote

Fetterman is pro-Israel and held a black man a gun point for no reason. I am moderate as well as independent, but that is funny as I watch liberals become authoritarian at a rate the right-wing could never imagine.

Define fascism for me. I ask every one of you that uses the word, the ONE(out of hundreds) that answered me tried using Trump policies and I showed him Obama policies that were the exact same thing. So please, tell me what it is or stop using it as you aren't helping whatever your agenda is.

As far as I am concerned the closest acceptable behavior comparable to fascism has come from the left. I actually know what fascism is and where/how it started though.

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jmdunkle t1_iugnl0c wrote

Bud, if you think far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist, militaristic, and holding beliefs that certain races are superior to others describes “liberals” more than the GQP, you never knew what fascism was (spoiler: you didn’t). Similarly, if you were truly a “moderate” and “independent” you wouldn’t have reacted defensively to my comment. No, I’d say you’re either a trump-loving astroturfer (a bad one, at that), or a reactionary pretending to be moderate to avoid scrutiny for the right-wing beliefs you actually hold. Either way, I give your attempt a 0/10

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Gill03 t1_iukat65 wrote

None of that is true, give examples of that behavior. I don’t care about your opinion or interpretation. People thought Obama was a communist, they are as ignorant as you.

Trump is a populist. Nothing he ever did was fascist and you have no proof.

Your behavior trying to label me as an “other” for calling you out says a lot. Just so you know. But your behavior is a means to justify the ends though right?

Fascism is an extreme ideology, it should be easy to point out. If I asked you how Hitler was fascist you would be able to tell me exactly how I would hope. But you are just being hyperbolic for the sake of a narrative and practicing authoritarianism. A product of surrounding yourself with like minded people who don’t challenge the stupid shit you say.

I voted for Obama twice and Biden so your tactics don’t work on me you will actually have to back up what you say.

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_iugle9u wrote

Cite your source for Fetterman being pro Israel.

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Niebuhrs_Neighbor t1_iugmoeu wrote

John Fetterman, the lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania and the Democratic frontrunner in next month’s high-profile Senate primary, said he was “eager to affirm” his “unwavering” commitment to bolstering ties between the United States and Israel in an interview with Jewish Insider on Thursday, emphasizing that he will “lean in” on such efforts if he is elected to the upper chamber this November.

“Whenever I’m in a situation to be called on to take up the cause of strengthening and enhancing the security of Israel or deepening our relationship between the United States and Israel, I’m going to lean in,” Fetterman declared in his first conversation with a Jewish publication since he launched his campaign more than a year ago. “The relationship is a special one that needs to be safeguarded, protected, supported and nurtured through legislation and all available diplomatic efforts in the region.”

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StarWars_and_SNL t1_iugnqod wrote

Ok, fair criticism then.

I guess for those who vote Dem or Repub, it’s a weird tie on that issue.

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Gill03 t1_iukc18q wrote

Lol. Now do the holding a gun on a black guy thing. I like Fetterman, but you people are so full of it. Those virtues you’ve been shoving down everyone’s throat go right out the window when it suits you eh? It’s why I can’t stand rhetorical ideological partisan hacks.

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ThunderySleep t1_iuhivrh wrote

It's more interesting to see the side that blindly does and believes whatever the TV tells them to, rip on a guy because he used to be on TV.

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jmdunkle t1_iuhjc6l wrote

I know right? The people who repeat all the culture war grievances they see and hear on Fox News are hilarious

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ThunderySleep t1_iuhjia8 wrote

You're so addicted to it, you think everyone else is the same, just with different channels.

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Libsoccer20 t1_iui5ny9 wrote

Right wing newspaper backs conservative. No one is surprised.

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Libsoccer20 t1_iui68gp wrote

Oz is still losing in polls.

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JBupp t1_iuj2avz wrote

I'm sorry to hear that ...

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Reynard1981 t1_iugehmd wrote

OP spitting facts the anti-American Fetternazis can’t handle lmao.

This is great news! If either Fatterman or Shapiro are elected, our state is more screwed than what Wolf did to it.

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LordKaraka12 t1_iuhzylc wrote

Everyone I don’t like is a Nazi :(

Edit. Replies and then blocks so I can’t respond. Rightoids afraid of dialogue always

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Reynard1981 t1_iui26so wrote

That’s how the liberal left is. Then they call everyone they don’t like a nazi. You don’t like it when the the table is turned, do you?

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dragonsfire242 t1_iuihark wrote

No that’s what your exaggerated idea of “the liberal left” is, we would make a lot more progress in this country if folks like you stopped calling people nazis and tried actually understanding opposing viewpoints

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kinni_grrl t1_iui2mnp wrote

Sorry Penn pals.

Vote for sanity and qualified representatives. Disruption is needed in this fractured Democracy but the lack of equity and understanding of actual issues isn't helping anyone but the Corporatocracy

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stahleo t1_iufc97y wrote

This is great news! Thanks for sharing.

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LetsPlayCanasta OP t1_iufcdfs wrote

You're welcome! It is great news.

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LiveShape1335 t1_iufdoqa wrote

MAGAit trash.

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emet18 t1_iufiu6x wrote

YOU DISAGREE WITH ME YOU ARE A FASCIST RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

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LoadAny5032 t1_iuflkzp wrote

Supporting fascists makes you a fascist yes. Just horrible people

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emet18 t1_iufscu9 wrote

"Everyone who disagrees with me is a fascist and nuance is impossible"

k thx

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