IrresponsibleScience t1_iu3ys9j wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:40 AM

Reply to comment by Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer in Pa.’s natural gas industry set to get billions in state tax credits - The Allegheny Front by jayjaywalker3

You seem to want to be nit-picky with the definition of socialism, so I guess you should know that you also are mischaracterizing it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

When giving corporations and large companies that have the assets to take care of themselves tax money that doesn’t benefit citizens, and turning around and complaining about using that same tax money in a way that directly benefits citizens, seems like a mis-prioritization of standards.

Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iu3z9gz wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:45 AM

Yeah that's not socialism. Socialism is about the workers controlling the means of production. There are heavy elements of redistributionism, which is where you seem to be getting hung up. What you're describing is corporate welfare, not socialism.

IrresponsibleScience t1_iu3zka2 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:48 AM

Correct. Following the popular abuse of “socialism” has lead you and the other guy down a rabbit hole and gotten you downvoted. Could have been solved with some clarification early on ;).

But to summarize: corporate welfare bad, give resources to citizens.

Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iu403rx wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:53 AM

Lol I really could not care less that I've been downvoted. It's still stupid to mischaracterize socialism if you are claiming to be a proponent of it

IrresponsibleScience t1_iu407v3 wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:54 AM

I’m just saying a little clarity of your intentions early on and the whole thing would have been resolved.

IrresponsibleScience t1_iu404pi wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:53 AM

I think what u/crazypants9 is hitting on is the “if healthcare for all is ‘socialism,’ than so is corporate welfare.” Which is fair. Ive always dreamed of a politician calling out that BS.

Lil_Phantoms_Lawyer t1_iu40gxg wrote on October 28, 2022 at 11:57 AM

Politicians say that all the time. Joe Biden said it like a week ago.

crazypants9 t1_iu6iajz wrote on October 28, 2022 at 10:38 PM

Then explain to me how a nation that espouses the pursuit of life liberty happiness calls affordable healthcare for its citizens “socialist” because we all pay for it? BUT WEALTHY CAN BE AFFORDED BREAKS BUT NOT THE COMMON MAN? You have been fed lies, and as long as you buy it you will be on the losing end. Check out other developed nations seizing homes for hospital bills. They were going to have a sheriff sale of my life because my boy had leukemia and the hospital can call that marker in ANYTIME. And this is WITH INSURANCE. I managed to confront the machine that made this decision, oh and they never meant to do that. They called my house every day. Back and forth, beyond reasonable and customary, that’s “experimental”, we won’t pay. My kid lived. Ever wonder why coffee cans on counters in stores are there? A piece of the sky falls on yours and now you lose everything. Wake the fuck up. Socialism is not what you think it is. This is civilization because you do not increase the worth of your house by burning down the ones around you.