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ScottEATF t1_itr3zf0 wrote

Reply to comment by Matt-33-205 in Larry Krasner Impeachment Committee Relies on Widely Panned Journal Study by psychothumbs

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/myths-and-realities-understanding-recent-trends-violent-crime

The article contains links to other articles/studies if you want to dig down to where they are getting their info.

It's really telling that you want to try and oversimplify complex issues but are dismissive of Krasner doing similar.

After all, in his view, the root cause is clearly visible to anyone that is reasonable and objective. Gun violence is driving these increases in violent crimes. Gun proliferation has increased sharply. The more guns you have the more gun related crime is going to result. It really is that simple.

The grandstanding can cut both ways.

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Matt-33-205 t1_itr8ns7 wrote

Is it possible for you to cite an actual scientific study or reputable data that doesn't come from a left-leaning source? The Brennan Center...

The irony is rich here. You said "correlation does not equal causation", and then cite a left-leaning study that shows crime rates also went up in certain states that voted for Donald Trump in the last presidential election.

I am literally talking about district attorney Philadelphia Larry Krasner who is charged with administering criminal justice in the city. Not Joe biden, not Donald trump, I'm talking about the actual guy who is charged with prosecuting criminals. Larry krasner is failing miserably at his job.

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KetchupEnthusiest95 t1_itrh28l wrote

The Brennan Center's sources in this case come from organizations and government data such as the CDC and FBI.

To be frank, its not Krasner who has his own issues. Because if its Krasner, I could also cite the city controller report on the PPD and instead point the blame at the police who seemingly quit doing their job since the BLM protests.

Plus, you've provided no data, just emotional lines.

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Matt-33-205 t1_itrn9aw wrote

Lol, I've provided plenty of data and very little emotional arguments. Calling the sky blue isn't an emotional argument, it's simply a statement of fact.

If you don't aggressively prosecute violent criminals, and you release these violent criminals back onto the streets, violent crime will rise sharply. This isn't an emotional argument, this is a statement of fact. It's concerning this isn't obvious to everyone. I've shared the data several times, murders have more than doubled in the city of Philadelphia since krasner became DA.

The leftwing Brennan Center cherry picks data from government sources to support their position. They openly advocate for Progressive policy implementation, they don't hide it.

I will acknowledge that the Defund The Police movement impacted morale among rank and file police officers. I'm not defending that, but it's human nature

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KetchupEnthusiest95 t1_itsk6vh wrote

Its an incredibly emotional argument because you're not actively providing evidence that this is happening beyond a few moments.

You've made a bunch of claims, nothing to pack them up and then act high and mighty when we point that out. We provide sources, its not good enough, but the fact of the matter is that one side brought evidence. You've brought 'common sense'.

And you can keep throwing around Philly Numbers about our murder rate, and we've responded back pointing out its a nationwide epidemic of violence in cities with both progressive and conservative DAs. In fact, New York City's DA has simiiliar views to Krasner, they have a fucking 3rd of our crime rate. And both the previous and current DA are progressive in their policies.

So if we're gonna throw around excuses, what about the sorry excuse for the Philadelphia Police Department with a notorious history including the MOVE Bombing, Joey fucking Bologna who got a standing ovation after crushing a teenage girl's head in during the BLM protest, and the FOP who've all but admitted that they want to arrest more black people.

Or how about the number of police in civilian positions wasting our time not patrolling the streets? Why aren't they held to same crushing accountability that Krasner is?

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