Submitted by MandoFett123456 t3_y7b51q in Pennsylvania
insofarincogneato t1_isx0xud wrote
Reply to comment by pocketbookashtray in U.S. Supreme Court backs Republican in Pennsylvania ballots case by MandoFett123456
You know how required licensing only burdens working class and POC with owning firearms and doesn't actually stop violent crime? Why is voter ID supposed to stop voter fraud instead of disenfranchise voters when there's not any significant statistic of fraud?
pocketbookashtray t1_it556oj wrote
So you are in the POC are too stupid to be able to get an ID camp. Nice racist position.
insofarincogneato t1_it5afxk wrote
The ID thing is about government agencies purposely making it difficult for working class people and folks who are marginalized by society due to hours of operation, location and price. separating working class from POC in what I said is a bad faith attempt to redirect and speaks volumes about what points you have to actually make. You didn't even address the main point about ID and licenses preventing crime or fraud.
With no real argument, what's left? You just don't care if it makes voting harder cause you buy into media bullshit and talking about race relations is nice and divisive. You can miss me with that shit, and you probably shouldn't assume someone's race on the Internet.
pocketbookashtray t1_it5dwdl wrote
We can agree that government agencies make life difficult for everyone. Less government is always a good thing. But you overstate the difficulty of getting an ID. There is not one piece of evidence that voter ID, anywhere in the world, has inhibited legal voting.
insofarincogneato t1_it5h8p5 wrote
If there's no problem getting an ID and there's no good evidence that voter fraud is a wide spread problem then I have to wonder why you're not questioning why it's such a huge party platform.
Why make it harder?
You know you can't prove a negative right? If people are inhibited from voting how would you be able to keep statistics on it? Site the source of a study done on it.
When government makes things harder, it's disproportionately harder on marginalized people. I just don't get why voter ID is the one "inconvenience" you're arguing for.
pocketbookashtray t1_it9adjx wrote
Voter fraud is a problem.
insofarincogneato t1_it5in2r wrote
How do you rationalize the requirements of ID? Should homeless people not get to vote because they don't have a legal address? Should we charge people for legal documents that are needed in order to exercise their rights?
All this kind of talk does is further politician's agenda to discredit and to influence folks to lose faith in our system. What do we do when Democrats take majority and we have to fight for even more strict requirements? Are we gonna take their word that it's in good faith? Cause I'm not really here for that.
pocketbookashtray t1_it9agib wrote
So every other civilized country is doing it wrong.
insofarincogneato t1_ita4znq wrote
What an argument... Is every other country doing gun licenses right? How is it that America is compared to other countries only when it's convenient?
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