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Exodys03 t1_jbv35y3 wrote

Something about this story does not sound right. The guy had been working as a charge nurse in a psychiatric hospital where everyone was aware he had some form of disability yet after one incident the entire staff mistakes his behavior for a drug induced psychosis???

I have a feeling there is more to this story than the article portrays.

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OneHumanPeOple t1_jbvexln wrote

His slurred speech is intermittent. If he’s anything like me, it happens most during stress, but the article didn’t say. My interpretation of the article is that he was being targeted for whistle blowing on patient neglect.

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Thezedword4 t1_jbwev1e wrote

That was my first thought as well. They were trying to cover their ass on poor patient treatment which wouldn't be surprising.

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Hashtaglibertarian t1_jbxuyqi wrote

UPMC is one of the most corrupt organizations I have ever witnessed jn our state. I’m a travel nurse and I would NEVER take another upmc contract. They are killing people. Negligence and not following standards of care. I have stories for daaayys about their corruption.

That is exactly what they were trying to do - silence him. And then they had the AUDACITY to ask that man to come back to work 4 days later??

I hope he gets a great retirement from this.

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lordpascal t1_jbz4ovo wrote

The more I learn, the more I lose faith in humanity...

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saintofhate OP t1_jbvefk2 wrote

I feel there's several ways to look at it.

One: someone fucked up with the patient he had to take care of and the supervisor wanted the nurse to look crazy to cover their ass. Once you're accused of being on drugs/having a mental break down the more you deny the less people believe you.

Two: he was high/having a break down and needed intervention. The problem with this scenario is why ask him back five days later?

Either way something is very hinky.

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trying-to-be-kind t1_jbvoqm4 wrote

Even if he was having some kind of meltdown, he asked to leave for a 10 minute break to compose himself. He was denied, and instead they went straight to the sedatives & restraints. If he had the presence of mind to ask for a cool down period, it seems obvious he wasn't so deranged as to require heavy handed measures.

I agree we haven't heard the whole story, but this smells like the hospital is looking to discredit anything he reports by saying "he's nuts".

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generalraptor2002 t1_jbxwh6l wrote

Exactly.

I thought bootyjuicing was only SUPPOSED to be used for violent and combative patients who are an immediate danger to themselves and others

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Sennva t1_jbxlb5s wrote

Something feels deeply wrong about an employer forcefully holding, treating, diagnosing one of their own employees. Especially after an accusation of neglect.

Even if their intentions were good it seems like a huge conflict of interest.

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hsavvy t1_jbw81qc wrote

It’s also very difficult to involuntarily commit an adult and for his literal employer and coworkers to go to the effort of trapping him on a floor, I agree that it seems like something is missing.

I’ve also spent a lot of time on that particular unit and it’s incredibly emotionally and mentally draining, for both patients and staff. I’m not discounting his claims but def agree that there has to be more to this situation.

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generalraptor2002 t1_jbwwbt0 wrote

Oh please

The staff at these hospitals encourage family members to make shit up all the time to make a patient committable when they find another family member “inconvenient” And want to get them out of the house for a while but they don’t meet the criteria

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hotbakedgoods t1_jbwwufw wrote

There are literally not enough beds for all the people that need help. They try to send as many people home as they can. You have absolutely no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

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OneHumanPeOple t1_jbxny3b wrote

That’s not true. There are empty beds every week. My friend does MH placements. There are hundreds of open beds on any given day.

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OneHumanPeOple t1_jbxqmvp wrote

Are you sure you aren’t having a psychotic break? I looked at your profile and saw that you take recreational psychedelic drugs.

Not judging, it’s fine with me, but don’t expect other people to believe your delusions.

Also, you said in another post that your girlfriend is at the bottom of her payscale. Doesn’t sound like she’s the lead of anything. You’re contradicting yourself a lot.

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steampunkedunicorn t1_jby3urw wrote

That's not really how it works. "Open beds" is sometimes used colloquially to indicate that a unit can take more patients, but literal "empty beds"/rooms can't always be filled due to mandated patient ratios. There's a massive staffing shortage and so the number of patients that a unit can take is heavily limited. People in charge of placements cannot see staff census, so they would not be privy to that information.

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mynamemightbealan t1_jbx4vmk wrote

I worked there for years. You're a liar and probably someone who's unwilling to accept consequences for their words/actions.

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Brilliant-Jacket-550 t1_jbxtahh wrote

I can’t speak to this particular hospital, but I’m a former Public Defender who represented people being subject to involuntary commitment. You wouldn’t believe the hoops that hospital staff and even hearing officers will jump through to commit someone who doesn’t meet the criteria.

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hsavvy t1_jbxtviv wrote

I know that can happen but not typically to an employee in the middle of their work day.

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Gun3 t1_jbxedbu wrote

I couldn’t disagree more with regards to Western Psyche

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RaindropsInMyMind t1_jbxskp5 wrote

And now do they try to make him take the drugs BEFORE being committed? At that point he is not a patient there.

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Zenith2017 t1_jc3if3i wrote

There may be some room on "everybody knew" - I thought he informed supervisors and HR upon hire, which you would normally (or should) do in case you need to request an accomodation via ADA. it doesn't necessarily mean his everyday coworkers and peers knew, although he may or may not have chosen to be open about it.

FWIW I have ADHD and I get slurred speech during high stress situations (brain 1000x faster than mouth)

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Exodys03 t1_jc3n7ki wrote

Yes but slurred speech or any common symptoms from his reported ADHD and dyslexia would not warrant the staff’s threats to physically restrain him and giving him a shot of Zyprexa involuntarily. I have a strong feeling that there is behavior on his part that we’re not hearing about.

Did it warrant the reaction from staff, medication and an involuntary commitment? I think we would need to hear both sides of the story to make an informed judgment.

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Zenith2017 t1_jc3q25s wrote

I'm definitely interested in what comes out that's for sure. Seems to be a potential for ulterior motives on every party's part - like you said, what provoked such a crazy reaction, and was it on the nurse or was it something else that influenced his peers to react so strongly?

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Raziel3 t1_jclkpxu wrote

But this happens all the time to the "mentally ill" i hope these people burn in hell.

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