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Patiod t1_jbb4kol wrote

Reply to comment by Kabloosh75 in Pennsylvania hospital wants to send woman in coma to Dominican Republic, against her family’s wishes by WITFnews

And yet LVMC goes under the auspices of being "non-profit" to avoid taxes. Pretends to be a charity.

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feels_like_arbys t1_jbbp8aw wrote

They did give her 10 weeks of services without pay. Is that not charitable?

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Patiod t1_jbc13xt wrote

So where do you draw the line on where that should stop? A free lollipop? Free generic drugs? 1 day of treatment? 10? 100?

For-profit or not for profit, it is flat out immoral to view health care decisions based on profit opportunities, and it's flat-out immoral to judge whether to provide life-saving health care based on an ability to pay. And if you think it's a great way to make money and that a person should not get care if they don't cough up for it (or have someone paying for it) YOU are why this country is suffering from the late-stage effects of malignant capitalism.

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feels_like_arbys t1_jbc1jzb wrote

I'd argue lvhn is making zero dollars on this case and judging from the article LVHN provided emergent brain surgery and 10 weeks of care.

If you were in another country and needed brain surgery. How many months of care would you seek to get without being asked to return home?

This is an all around unfortunate situation, but should we provide her emergency citizenship and provide her medicaid? I'm all for it but that's not lvhns role

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Airbornequalified t1_jbbfzul wrote

That’s not what non-profit means

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Patiod t1_jbbzkxp wrote

So non-profits pay all the property, state income and sales tax?

So when I give a non-profit ID # to stores when I buy stuff for the non-profit charity fund-raising group I'm affiliated with, we're NOT getting the benefit of claiming to be a non-profit?

(I was under the impression non-profit health care providers in PA had to provide a certain amount of charity care, but sadly, I was very wrong.)

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Airbornequalified t1_jbc0r57 wrote

They do not pay them all. They do get tax benefits for being non-profit. But non-profit doesn’t mean charity. It means they basically can’t make profits, so if they made more in a year than they spent, they have to basically spend that money (such as for upgrades, or bonuses)

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tmaenadw t1_jbf2nyp wrote

Just because they are a charity doesn't mean that they have endless resources. They have to pay suppliers, the people that work there need to be paid.
The reality of medical care is that it will always be rationed, always. There will always be some expensive therapy out there that can be tried, even if it shouldn't be.
My husband used to work at the county hospital in Seattle. People would fly their relatives in from another country and try to get them care there. The hospital struggled some years to care for those who lived in the county.
As a country, we decide who rations the medical care, and right now we are letting the insurance companies do it based on who can afford premiums and how much profit they want to make in the current year.
There will always be tough decisions to make in health care, and there will always be families who cannot let go and think their supreme being will perform a miracle, meanwhile the medical staff is at fault when the miracle doesn't occur and everyone is mad when care costs money.
Our inability to set clear policy as a country and as a society means that the medical staff and those who are trying to keep the hospital afloat will bear the brunt of society's inability to step up on this topic.
Even non-profits cannot operate in the red.

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