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thehoagieboy t1_j9z4r6c wrote

AITTFHWI - Am I the tin foil hat wearing idiot? This recent fentanyl crap is sketchy? There's no benefit to a drug dealer spiking their product and killing the people buying from them. There is no benefit to a Delta 8 company spiking their product that they sell. BUT, you know where the benefit is? People who want Delta 8 illegal. People who have lost the "just say no" drug war and figure the only way to make them stop is to scare them with the threat of death. If my tin foil hat didn't just fall off I would start to suspect someone else with an agenda.

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insofarincogneato t1_j9z86j1 wrote

Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to incompetence... It's way more likely some dude handling drugs was negligent, had cross contamination and didn't have the oversight to make sure the product was safe. That's what happens when profits are first priority.

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thehoagieboy t1_j9z96bc wrote

OK, that might explain the drug dealer. How about the Delta 8 company? No way that's a "plant" for the anti groups to get their way?

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insofarincogneato t1_j9zcycu wrote

That would require a lot of trustworthy product to be made with a lot of money earned just to throw it away to make a little bit of untrustworthy product without the group being greedy and maintaining profits. It also requires running a tight enough ship to have zero info-sec issues. The organization and backing for that from a bunch of small groups working together would have to be colossal. You believe the likelihood of that?

Anyway, unsafe products from major corporations leave the factory all the time because of negligence. Recalls only happen when there's been a government mandate or that get too much bad publicity.

Why would a large corporation allow folks to hurt their bottom line otherwise? We have a long history of large businesses shutting down lobbying and advocacy groups.

I'm not saying it isn't a conspiracy, I'm saying there's other more common explanations.

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Weekly_Ad6452 t1_ja01a5m wrote

Good point. All one has to do is look up the Ford Pinto on Google. Ford made the decision to just pay out in lawsuits than to end up spending more $ to ultimately solve the defect in their own factories.

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thehoagieboy t1_ja2222p wrote

So if I understand you correctly, you're implying that the company that is producing Delta 8 THC products has some cross contamination issues with Fentanyl? OK, that might make sense if the same company that makes the delta-8 products ALSO makes fentanyl. I'm not aware of that being the case, are you?

I'm not ready to blame the Tylenol manufacturers for the 1982 Tylenol laced with potassium cyanide. Why would that have been in the manufacturing plant at all?

I really try to not be a tin foil hat person, but they're making it easier.

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insofarincogneato t1_ja2nox6 wrote

I want to stress again that I'm not implying anything, I'm talking about common situations that may reasonably happen which would offer a logical explanation in place of a hypothesis that isn't based on fact or common practices about a hidden malicious agenda.

Tin foil hat moment though if you like, but if they did use it to cut costs and make the product, or other inferior products illegally that could lead to cross contamination, would you necessarily be aware that that's the case? What does regulation, inspection and enforcement look like in the industry?🤔

Potassium cyanide is used commercially for printing, dyeing, metal cleaning, and electroplating. As well as other uses that probably aren't relevant here... all reasonable jobs one might expect in a production facility.

Johnson and Johnson makes a lot of stuff, from pharmaceuticals to medical instruments. I think that if folks couldn't think of a reason why that compound would be there they either aren't trying hard enough or have a bit of bias to look past.

The J&J case is extra sus when we remember other suits brought up against them, specifically the asbestos contaminated talc that was found in their baby powder which everyone knew about.

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windowlatch t1_ja0nyw1 wrote

It’s rarely ever intentionally laced in things other than opioids. It’s much more likely to be cross-contaminated from sketchy basement dealers that forget to cleans their scales and other equipment. These products should all be legalized and federally regulated to ensure that this kind of stuff doesn’t happen.

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thehoagieboy t1_ja2263m wrote

That possibly explains the drug dealer part, but not the legally manufacturing part.

You're right on the legalization though.

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AfterSport2327 t1_j9zkegr wrote

They’re putting that shit in literally everything. One of my buddy’s coworkers just died from fetty laced shit

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Another-random-acct t1_ja04muw wrote

fent laced what? I’ve never seen anything credible indicating weed is being laced with fent. It seems like police fear mongering to me.

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AfterSport2327 t1_ja04z2r wrote

It wasn’t tree I’ll just say that but it was a different drug where it makes no sense to be cut with.

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Another-random-acct t1_ja053vt wrote

You can’t say what drug? I assume they did a blood test to confirm?

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AfterSport2327 t1_ja05dsg wrote

Literally just told me a couple weeks ago I’m guessing there still doing the tests. He told he was into meth

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thehoagieboy t1_j9zl1dx wrote

Why though? Are they trying to cut the main drug to make it last longer?

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AfterSport2327 t1_j9zl9dr wrote

Idk I’m kind of with you on the tin foil hat thing I feel like it’s deeper then what people think for whatever reason

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speakez421 t1_ja07i29 wrote

I’ve had friends die from fent laces coke and Xanax over the past couple of years. They are cutting it into fucking everything to make their drugs seem “stronger”. It works if it doesn’t kill you.

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