Submitted by BlaccAtlassStan t3_113w1ed in Pennsylvania
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That stuff definitely spread out. And it’s in the Ohio river basin which feeds 8 states including W. Virginia.
No question that it is traveling through the watersheds, but I think it’s a bit irrational to think that the material has completed the entire water cycle of being spilled, hitting a river, diluting in the body of water, evaporating, joining the preexisting rainy conditions, which would dilute it again, and then falling as rain in south central PA in a density that would be noticeable to the OP.
There’s plenty of reasons to be concerned with the effects of this incident, I just don’t think this is one of them. 👍
Do you have allergies? The plants are blooming early and rain causes pollen bursts
Yup, my pond looks disgusting already with pollen and ice. Its a mess out there
Yes, yes they are!
I do not
I live in Shippensburg. Everything is normal.
The most sophisticated atmospheric modeling would have any residual from the controlled burn long gone off the continent and out over the ocean many days ago. The powerful front that pushed through late Thursday night into Friday purged air over the state like a 50mph snow plow. Winds aloft were persistently well over 100 mph.
That is not to discredit what you are experiencing. It could either be a coincidental headache and you are thinking about the derailment (most of us still are), or there was a local noxious source from industry that is triggering it. It shall pass, worry not.
I live in Carlisle which is pretty smack in between Ship and Harrisburg. Smells fine and no headaches. Maybe lay off the weed for a bit and see if the paranoia stops.
I haven’t smoked anything recently 🤔
Did it hit your tin foil hat?
Yeah and it melted thru it
There is nearly no chance products from the Ohio incident made it to you. You are 250 miles away. Even with the most optimal wind it didn’t make it.
This. I live 10 minutes away and it's definitely out of the air. I smell nothing.
Good to know. Hope you are safe. Personally I would be more curious about soil deposits nearby.
Good to know. Hope you are safe. Personally I would be more curious about soil deposits nearby. L
True. I'm more interested in the rain today because it's the first rain since the controlled release and saturate the ground making some of these inactive chemicals "active" again.
I would be more worried about what’s deep in the soil that may remain for years and years. Those are the long standing impacts that can hurt people and generations.
None of the stuff from the derailment is in the ground anywhere near Ship. Nor is it ever likely to reach Ship. Just not happening.
Absolutely not even close to ship. Nearby as in nearby the spill site. Not nearby them.
Though who knows what’s in their soul. Probably some good ol’ PCBs.
Fresh fruit and veggies may be good for the soul, but PCB's? That'll just cool down your inner hydraulics.
Sprinkle a little PCB dressing on your salad for a well rounded diet.
a cloud cant move 150-250 miles in one week?
A cloud can. But the contents of the cloud are constantly changing. The “cloud” over Ohio will not just retain the exact properties it had at that moment.
Ten miles. My money is you will find evidence of products ending near the 10 mile marker down wind.
Actually, 167 miles straight line
It’s going to be dispersed into a wide area and be so diluted that sniffing a pvc shower curtain will cause you more harm
It's already out of the state. Probably somewhere off Newfoundland by now.
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You got me. I didn’t utilize a straight line.
Point stands.
Did you test the rainwater for any acidity? I'm from Ohio and curious if anyone in Pennsylvania has done that yet.
Kind of meaningless unless you tested it before all this
Like average people have litmus tests just laying around for a random use.
Literally anyone with a pool
Yeah well I don’t have one of those so…
Ohio state reps said they were giving them out free as a part of the "cleanup process" but only to people who have wells.
I haven’t, also don’t really want to go back outside.
Believe they have in Econ Valley, Darlington and other places down the Rt 51 corridor.
Y’all are weird, I clearly stated I’m probably just paranoid and y’all seemingly just skipped over that part yet continued to reiterate where I mentioned being paranoid 😂 goofies
>I clearly stated I’m probably just paranoid
We are just trying to help you get thru your mental health crisis.
Before rainfall, the nearby farmers spread manure on their fields. Probably what you are smelling. Otherwise, just the cheap hootch you've been drinking.
What kinda weed you smoking bruh? Must be laced
It smells like spring rain.
Get a hold of yourself
I did that and the headache didn’t go away, so what’s the next step?
Pull yourself together
That clearly didn’t help any 🤦🏻♀️
Get your act together
Pick yourself up by your bootstraps? Maybe that will help?
If nothing else, BuckUp!
Suck it up. Is this the first time in your life you had a headache? Does your mom still kiss all your booboos. Are you incapable of reading the other hundred posts on the subject?
I don’t sit and spend my entire on Reddit, so no.
Yet... here you are.
Are you wearing a tinfoil hat? Like come on.
No, but would it get rid of my headache if I did?
You should try it and see.
Oof didn’t help
I have free range chickens who have been out in it all day, and unlike that fake story about the chickens dying 10 miles away, they're fine.
Im 10 miles away. My friend owns a farm in Enon Valley. Everything is alive.
What's your thought on that chicken lady who claimed her birds died from it? I think she's full of baloney. There's no way it went up and came down only on her chickens.
I saw that. I have no idea but wasn't she right next to the site?
Nope, she was 10 miles away.
Well that's just ridiculous then on her part.
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My recollection of Ship was that it often smelled like a combination of natural fertilizer and a sewage plant. Whatever you’re smelling is probably normal.
Y'all should really stop making fun of this OP. It's a valid question, how far into PA is that shit gonna go? I've been wondering that myself. I'm near Philly so I'm not personally worried about it hitting here, but west PA has a right to be in edge with this shit.
Shippensburg isn't Western PA.
True, mid PA. But western PA should still worry.
I live ten physical miles from the site. I didn't go outside the week of the controlled release and turned off my furnace which sucked.
It has been weeks. If anything is still hanging around in the air that would be absolutely fascinating especially because we have had 45+ mph winds and fast moving weather systems twice since.
It's been TWO weeks, roughly, and the area will always be poisoned. Go drink creekwater and let's see.
Why are you defending the train company?
How is displaying common sense defending the train company?
Plus, Did you happen to notice the wind yesterday? The really strong wind that lasted all day? There's nothing left from the burn.
Sure, sure.
You don't believe in wind?
I don't believe the wind just magically made it go away. Moved it, sure. And that's the worrisome part.
Idk I live just outside of Philly and those clouds yesterday morning looked pretty funky.
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They really did.
The only thing funnier than the number of Russian bots spreading FUD about the derailement is the number of suckers who are just going along with the conspiracy theory without questioning how absurd it all sounds.
It was an accident. It was bad. People will end up fired or fined.
The rain isn't poison.
Ok but I’ve been following the derailment with direct sources since it derailed, I had knowledge about the train and issues it had before it even derailed. I’m not some clueless nut case 😂
>I’m not some clueless nut case
uh huh
There's a map of where the pollution plume traveled, it missed us in central pa.
But did these clouds travel through the plume and pick up particulates?
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Seems fine to me
I’m slightly south of you and it just smells like rain. Maybe you stepped in something check your shoes
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Ill take a tin foil hat over cancer any day. collected all dog toys from the yard in Chester Co PA, as I couldn't give a fuck if it's 0.01% chance of making it my way, i'M not going out at the hands of a train company LMAO
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Get an array of various types of metal, & leave it out for a few days. Check if any pieces are corroded.
i dont think what OP is saying here is crazy at all. No one even knows wtf kind of chemicals were vented or burnt off.
Use some common sense. The chemicals would spread out over a massive area. A plume 150 miles away and 50 miles wide would be diluted in a huge amount of air of 7500 square miles. The number of toxic molecules is going to be on the order of one part per trillion and you are probably exposed to more toxic gases released from plastic items in your house. You should probably be more concerned about dozens of factories releasing toxic chemicals nonstop while the train burned for a couple days over a week ago.
>i dont think what OP is saying here is crazy at all.
There's none of it over Ship today. Wreck was nearly 2 weeks ago. Any exposure or smell would have been within a day or two of the burn-off. Only places it remains is in soil or waterways near side of derailment.
> No one even knows wtf kind of chemicals were vented or burnt off
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Yeah, most people don’t know, but I do. I have tons of inside information about the derailment, about what happened on the train before it derailed too.
>I have tons of inside information about the derailment
bollocks.
Oh, the moon is made of cheese. I have tons of inside info on that, too.
My best friend was a conductor on it 😂 so please, skip me with that
bollocks
troll elsewhere, dingus. before you get run out on a rail.
Sure, but 32N was doomed from the get go when it left illinois, but hey I’m not here to give y’all information that’s slowly being given to the public 😂
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welp 😑
And you were wrong lol
Try and see if you can get information from other people in your area if they have similar experiences. It’s not crazy to be worried about the smell of rain, especially since there was that big train derailment in Ohio over the border. It could be a placebo effect, like over thinking, or it could be just some shitty rain too- I would not recommend tasting rain if possible in general.
My friend near Harrisburg experienced the same thing as I did today.
Weather changes cause headached
Foile à deux
So you’re all delusional?
OK now this is a huge reach. The cloud didn't even go that direction. It's been two weeks.
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Your friend near Harrisburg says you are trolling for attention. Bars not open in Ship yet?
>Is there acid rain in Ohio?
Acid rain could have formed after the controlled release and burn of chemicals on Feb. 6, Kevin Crist, professor of chemical and biomolecular engineering and the director of the Air Quality Center at Ohio University, said. If it did form and fall, it would have most likely occurred downwind of East Palestine.
"There would maybe be localized problems, but once that plume is gone, it's gone. Unless it's sticking to a residue," Crist said.
Vinyl chloride in the atmosphere breaks down into hydrochloric acid, a component of acid rain. East Palestine residents may want to wipe down surfaces in homes for possible residual material, Crist added.
From the Cincinnati Enquirer (updated as of 1:44 pm)
ChickenGreaseLips t1_j8sqb5g wrote
Bud. Go look at the radar maps, this rain is coming from West Virginia, nowhere near the train wreck. The northwest corner of PA is plausible, but not your location. You’ll be okay.