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RedditModsArePoor t1_j8gceiq wrote

For having all knowledge readily available at your fingertips, kids are stupid:

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https://www.dmv.pa.gov/Driver-Services/Driver-Licensing/Driver-Manual/Chapter-1/Pages/Applying-for-a-Learner's-Permit.aspx

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This took me 1 minute to find or less:

"You must obtain a learner's permit before you operate a motor vehicle in Pennsylvania. You will need to take and pass the Vision, Knowledge and Road tests to get your driver's license. The Non-Commercial Learner's Permit Application (DL-180) (PDF) is valid for one year from the date of your physical examination; however, the physical examination date may not be more than six months prior to your 16th birthday."

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brashendeavors t1_j8gct4i wrote

And also:

"When you are 16 years of age or older, please complete the following steps in order to get your non-commercial learner's permit. You cannot apply for your permit before your 16th birthday."

I am confused of course why it says 'the physical examination date may not be more than six months prior to your 16th birthday' as well as 'You cannot apply for your (non-commercial learner's permit) before your 16th birthday' (???)

Then there is also this:

https://driversed.com/dmv/pennsylvania/gdl/

>Learners permits are issued to applicants who are at least 15 years of age and have successfully completed a written knowledge examination. The permit holder is allowed to drive under the supervision of a licensed driver who is at least 21 years old.

So confusing to me all around, to be frank.

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ImNorm29 t1_j8nyuhw wrote

Confusing point #1 - the "physical exam" is referring to a doctors exam, proving you don't have any chronic health issues which would prevent you from operating a vehicle safely; including vision issues which would require you to wear corrective lenses while driving. In order to get your permit, you need to have a doctor complete a physical paper. All this requirement is saying is that the paper needs to have been filled out at most 6 months before you apply for the permit.

Confusing point #2 - the site you're linking to isn't official; it looks to be a reference site that gathers info from various states and tries to be a single point of information. These sites shouldn't be trusted IMO. They are mostly out there generating ad-revenue by impersonating authority. In some cases, they may be accurate, but the specific state's own site (in this case PA) would certainly be THE site to trust.

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PoorFraxinus t1_j8gjvxj wrote

It's called being lazy, and it's not a trait that's exclusive to the younger generation. A lot of people would rather ask a question and have someone else (potentially more knowledgeable) answer it for them

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