Submitted by ODDBOY90 t3_10v1rb0 in Pennsylvania
julietteskyerose t1_j7fjpgp wrote
Reply to comment by Kfrr in So its safe to say as of 2023 theres No more stimulus checks coming right? by ODDBOY90
PA has a lot of dead end towns. Even the ones that are doing well are only working for a small group
Kfrr t1_j7fjyqn wrote
Don't blame the town. Leave.
Plenty of places in the country hire seasonally and house you. Spent half of my adult life bartending for tourists in different states during different seasons. Did 6 summers in Ohiopyle, most of them living in a vehicle.
You either got it or you don't.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fk5fd wrote
The grass is always greener my friend. I think this is a national maybe even global issue
Kfrr t1_j7fkb1u wrote
You won't know if the grass is greener or not unless you go for the hike.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fkkwv wrote
Sounds like you just like to run away and avoid something. Fair enough. But you can seize the day in more ways than fleeing just saying
Kfrr t1_j7flffv wrote
...?
There are billions of people on this planet and an infinite number of things to see and do and when someone says "leave your small town there's a lot of opportunity everywhere" your immediate response is "the grass is always greener, sounds like you like to run away".
I've snowboarded lone peak in Montana, I've done some of the biggest whitewater in the US, I've piloted an aircraft, my tattoo artist is in the UK, I've lived in a van for 6 months in Big Bend nat'l park, I've backpacked Mexico for a month, I have a wedding to go to in Africa in April, I've hiked sections of the AT and PCT...
And I'm from a poor family in Fayette fucking county.
I wouldn't be surprised if you... Got married, had children and bought a fucking house. (Correct me if I'm wrong: acknowledge if that's your dream).
Fuck outta here with your speculation and criticism.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fm0ka wrote
Like what do you want me to say ‘good for you’ whenever people voice something about how they are struggling there is always that guy that’s like ‘my life is great because I hustled, I wouldn’t get it…’ what does it serve but your own ego. I’m assuming you mean well but its tone deaf in this context. Some people just want to talk without breaking down their resume sometimes ya know
Kfrr t1_j7fmke2 wrote
They need to leave!
This has nothing to do with resumes or ego. It's a dead. end. town.
There's one outcome: a dead end.
Throw it the fuck away and move on.
I literally offered advice on how to get out. Work for a ski resort in the winter. Work for Nemacolin in the summer. They will house you and pay you well. If you like the place and want to move up the ladder, by all means go for it.
The least valuable advice is "stay put sweetie, the grass is always greener".
You know it, I know it.
Pack up, ship out, throw yourself out there, create opportunity. You could have $0 to your name and a well-traveled spirit and be in a better mindset than sticking it out in a dead end town waiting for a $2000 check from the President.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fnncm wrote
Yeah I agree I probably would. I was just speaking on the issue being systemic and if you are struggling there are very real forces keeping you down. I’m not one to accept this condition but it is very real. That’s just what I’m speaking on. I’m all for people living their best life, but $2k is way better $0.
Kfrr t1_j7fo4r5 wrote
I did. Went in on an apartment with 5 friends that I made in my travels and found a job when I got there.
Multiple moves across the US with no job or house lined up. Was homeless in Denver for a week because they wouldn't sign the lease for the apartment until I had a job offer.
I lived in Lidia's parking lot in Pittsburgh in 2014 while I worked there. They had no idea. Made friends, found a room.. well an unfinished basement, but it was warm.
We're capable of so much more than you give us credit for.
julietteskyerose t1_j7foroo wrote
It sounds like you’re just saying the only way to do things when poor is be homeless or begging for work… am I a dick for saying this… but like you can understand how that’s not super appealing to everyone
Kfrr t1_j7fqlvq wrote
If you're poor, you're already homeless and begging for work.
The sooner you accept that, the easier it is to move forward.
If you have a home and no money at the end of the month, you should be begging for work.
Complacency is the problem. It's easy to find a job and a place to live. A great majority of the population already does that. I've done it more times than I can count. Can you max your IRA, though? Can you really support your family? Do the kids get regular haircuts? Do you have time to cook every day? Do you contribute to a 529 plan for their future education?
I would rather an income, retirement contributions and a vehicle than be house poor. I've never, ever gone without a vehicle. It's an absolute necessity and can be lived in easily for significantly less than a house. I'll never be able to really afford children, so I won't have them. These are logical conclusions, unfortunately. I've accepted them, despite not being super appealing.
The easy life is hovering around a family in your hometown, barely making ends meet and bitching about politics and global economic problems. It's easy to look forward to the game on Sunday and the 7 familiar faces that are showing up to check out your new air fryer. That's definitely not super appealing to me.
It would be great to have come from a wealthy family. I didn't win the genetic lottery.
We only get so many rotations on this rock.
Time to make the best of it.
ODDBOY90 OP t1_j7njo6e wrote
i hear you but thats why i was needing that 2k..... in dead end towns jobs cut hours have low pay, ugghghh you know the drill.
at the end of the day i did this to myself, i allowed myself to get used and it costed me. being too much of a nice guy cost me big time. and im an adult. so no one cares......
if i have to move to a poor neighborhood or live in a car, so be it. i cant believe life is this hard, one mistake can cost you. people in bigger cities have more opportunities and can network.
i do have another chronic issue but now its get rich or die trying so fck it. if i die i die.
this world is cruel and i cant believe i was so dam naive. not saying that i will become heartless and be selfish but now i understand what people are capable of.
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but again thanks
Kfrr t1_j7o6cod wrote
Bro. You got this.
Make a small plan, that's all you need. If you have a vehicle and apply for a summer job somewhere, figure out how much it costs to get you there, save best ya can and make it happen.
If you don't have a vehicle yet then that's step #1. Learn money things like financing costs and what you can afford in a month if you work x/hrs and make $y/hr. If your credit sucks, that's the new step #1. If you don't have kids or a mortgage then you're already ahead of the people who dream of doing this but are kind of stuck.
If you break it down to "I need to start working on my credit so I can buy a car and leave this place in 6 months" then you have a real goal you can break down into how much money you have to make to make it happen.
While you're putting this plan to action, start reading about the hundreds of seasonal jobs you can scoop up, pick a few and fire off some applications. If you want housing included, focus on resorts/cruises.
It will take some time to establish yourself at a spot you love. Just work hard and you'll either get full time, year round employment or be invited back next season.
Before you know it you'll be able to breathe again.
dancingprotein t1_j7h2sll wrote
Don’t bother. Some people are just pessimistic
ODDBOY90 OP t1_j7flaol wrote
trust me bro I know this, im still wondering how tf did i go from living in nyc to this lol. im leaving i just need to figure out how im going to make real wages without having to commute 2 hours for decent work.
julietteskyerose t1_j7fmxsl wrote
Yeah I have family telling me to move more west since I live in one of the most expensive areas in pa and I don’t know how many ways to phrase it that there is nothing there. Even though I pay a lot to live here I can commute without a car so that helps me save up. It’s all about weighing what you value. It’s a bad time for a lot of people. The fact that you’re thinking about it is great.
IamSauerKraut t1_j7g0jur wrote
West is more expensive than east.
julietteskyerose t1_j7g0ud2 wrote
Definitely not. Maybe north east is better but I’m in the middle of some the largest cities in the country. Maybe you’re in Pittsburgh
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