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BrockChocolate t1_je1hf43 wrote

Reply to comment by cyberneticSatan in My German parents 30 years ago today on vacation in the Netherlands by LonnieYo

I don't think it was as difficult towards the end of the 80s post Berlin wall collapse

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cyberneticSatan t1_je1i3xb wrote

You're talking about the timeframe between November 9, 1989 and October 3, 1990, during which the GDR was unravelling itself very quickly. But before that, there was pretty much no chance for regular East Germans to vacation in the Netherlands.

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BrockChocolate t1_je1idqc wrote

Ah really! I would have thought Soviet reforms would have allowed western travel before then. The more you know, thanks!

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TheBlack2007 t1_je47igs wrote

By the mid-80s the Soviets went for a more lenient approach with their puppets and allowed them more autonomy. That’s why Hungary opened its border to Austria back in the summer of 1989 - and thousands of East Germans used that opportunity.

But the East German government itself was a bunch of hardliners, some of which having been around since the country was founded. They even openly discussed a "Chinese solution" and if the worst was to happen, would have detained more than 50,000 so-called "deviants" into internment camps. Hell, when the first free labor union of the Eastern Block was founded in Poland, East Germany begged the Soviets to solve this issue like they had in Prague (by rolling tanks over protesters) - and would have been willing to participate if necessary.

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