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JadowArcadia t1_ja2jfip wrote

Reply to comment by turdusphilomelos in Madonna 1980s by steroidamoeba

I mean why would you expect to be treated as something you no longer are though? Why feel the need to be hot or attractive well into old age? Why try and compete with women half your age? I really don't think it's as "damned if you do, damned if you dont" as people say. It's just that nobody likes getting old and dropping out of the limelight after getting all this attention for so long. It's part of life. Madonna could easily have followed Betty Whites vibe and accepted that she's no longer a 20 year old with sex appeal. That's how you get forgotten. When you keep trying to sell something you no longer have. Madonna seems to put her looks far before her music despite her music being the thing that would really keep her in the limelight.

I also think your "double punishment" theory is being used to specifically highlight women when what you've said clearly applies to the vast majority of people. We know less attractive people are treated worse than attractive people and we know people look down on people who "try too hard". And the older we get the harder we have to try which is why older people who accept where they are in life and don't try so hard end up being percieved as cooler.

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Hocraft-Loveward t1_ja33tfv wrote

>I mean why would you expect to be treated as something you no longer are though? Why feel the need to be hot or attractive well into old age?

Because it's their job.
While you can see plenty of old actors (65 or more) and old male singers, their females couterparts are still some exceptions. and most of the time it's because 'they are still hot' (think dolly parton)

madonna's job is literally to be notorious for being provocative. so nothing new here. just let her be.

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JadowArcadia t1_ja34zog wrote

As much as I see your point, being hot isnt Madonnas job. Her job has always been music. Being hot and provocative was just a supplementary factor. It's not like her career was based around being a model and even if it was, that's not a job you can have forever. Same way you can't be an athlete forever, eventually your body doesn't have it anymore and that's natural and completely ok. Most artists that continue to have lucrative careers aren't managing that based purely around sex appeal. It's their music and often nostalgia that keeps them going.

Also, I feel like your Dolly Parton point ignores how much people like her based on culture, her personality, her charitability etc etc more than just because "they are still hot". I mean a huge amount of Madonna fanbase come from the gay male community. I don't them finding her sexually attractive would be the factor that helped hold onto their support.

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