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Echos_myron123 t1_j2kfyaf wrote

Good issue but disagree with the brain drain piece. Why should Ivy League grads be given financial incentives when so many poor and working class Newarkers are struggling?

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Nwk_NJ t1_j2ngf74 wrote

They have started the "universal" income pilot, and have countless programs and aid to those struggling. Newark has a need for more of the ivy league or highly educated types. The city is not balanced at all. Esp compared to surrounding cities.

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Echos_myron123 t1_j2nmuvi wrote

The "universal" income pilot is incredibly small. I don't see why any financial assistance should be given to Ivy League grads by the city when the programs for poor people are severly lacking.

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Nwk_NJ t1_j2nrwvb wrote

The pilot is small, sure. If it were to be implemented, it would be universal, but would be restricted to those earning less, derived from the tax dollars of those earning more. I'm not sure that some wouldn't just move across town lines on principal once that expanded....but anyway,

At the end of the day... Who is to determine who "deserves" incentive and money and who doesn't? This article discusses incentives for native newarkers rather than transplants. Good chance a large percentage of those ivy leaguers came from working class backgrounds. Maybe they worked harder for their educations and careers than someone who opted for a different path.

Your position here seems to be exposing a more general issue with modern progressivism: it is no longer about equalizing a rigged non-merit based system...it is now just about elevating the less well off all the time and ignoring or penalizing the more well off, regardless of whether merit led either of them to their respective positions.

And I'm not saying the poor don't deserve help or it's their fault or whatever. So please don't mischaracterize what I'm saying. There are tons of programs for the struggling. Many of those programs are actually not very efficient/productive. But aside from that anyway, I have no objection to native newarkers who have done well, getting incentives to stay or come back home. It has nothing to do with other groups of people in thr city. It isn't a zero sum game.

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