Two Rock Hall voters share who needs to be on this year's ballot, including Devo and Kate Bush
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Why is that? I ask because aside from the one or two videos with them wearing silly hats, I've never heard anything about them.
I'm not being snarky, im just curious as to why you think that, when I'd say they don't belong at all.
For one, way way back in the Don Kirshner's Rock Concert era (way way before mtv) they were producing discrete thematically relevant videos for individual songs. Don Kirshner's Rock Concert was the only place to see music video at the time and most of it was concert footage with album tracks dubbed over, which was pretty underwhelming after a while. Meanwhile, DEVO was producing and releasing humorous, smart and well edited and produced videos made for each individual song! Their music sounds deceptively simple, but is actually very sophisticated and often technically difficult to actually play! I am admittedly biased because I've loved them 4 ever! Edited.
Any suggestions? I really haven't gotten much exposure to them or heard much about them outside of like those two songs.
Pretty huge discography, lots of great stuff! I'm sure there's great playlists around! I don't stream, and can't really think of anything to blow your mind! Dig in! If nothing does it for you I'm sorry!
I still love you. Thanks for the non jerky response that we've all become accustomed to with social media.
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
You can thank me later. One of the most underrated albums, ever.
I love the whole “Freedom of Choice” album.
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One of the most underappreciated bands in history, there really needs to be a documentary or docu-series about them so people realize just how important they were
Laughable. From the Snubbed List: Dick Dale: B-52s; The Guess Who; Procol Harem; Tue Runaways; Steppenwolf; Thin Lizzy; War; Soundgarden; Smasking Pumpkins; Ozzy; Motley Crüe; Iron Maiden; Harry Nilsson; Emerson Lake & Palmer; Bad Company, etc.
Guess Who should be a no brainer. But then again we are talking about Jann Wenner and his ilk.
Smashing Pumpkins deserve their dues. Thin Lizzy, Procol Harum, War, Nillson. It’s criminal these musicians aren’t on there.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has lost its legitimacy IMO. There are a lot of acts who took years to finally get inducted who deserved to be first ballots or who have never been inducted at all. Too much personal bias, lost its way pivoting to non-rock acts and becoming just a general "music" hall of fame.
agreed
Soundgarden FFS
No thanks.
Yes thanks!
Pixies
I wish the "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame would change its name if it's gonna keep ignoring rock acts in favor of completely non rock ones
I also wish people would stop paying any attention to it since it's so obviously completely full of bullshit
I know I did.
Motorhead
Here's my list of worthy artists that should be in the Hall: Nominated for RRHOF before:
Never Nominated:
I always say that you should prioritize older artists because #1 They've waited much longer than some of the artists who got in their first year eligible whose careers only go back to the mid eighties to mid nineties at this point. And #2 if some of these artists keep waiting, there's a good chance that they could die before they potentially get inducted. This has happened before with examples including Jon Lord of Depp Purple, and Chris Squire of Yes, both men were key founding members of their respective bands, but because the Rock Hall dragged their feet in inducting them, they died before they could see their bands get inducted. So it's important to honor older artists before it's too late. One thing that really irritates me is this attempt to redefine what "Rock n' Roll" is, i.e. places like the Rock Hall or the Grammys defining Rock as not a musical genre with key elements that set it apart from other genres, but into an "attitude", of a "mindset", of a "lifestyle". Now it can be those things, but what I'm talking is when people say someone like NWA, who I am a fan of BTW so I don't want to hear people call me bias or whatever, is Rock n' Roll, when they are obviously a rap group. I'm willing to bet nobody would call Metallica "Rap", because that would be ridiculous and it wouldn't make sense because those two genres have characteristics that make them different. At the end of the day, the Rock Hall can induct whoever they want, I'm just saying either live up to their name, or change it to something more broad.
The fact that Ozzy hasn’t been in there for 17 years already for his solo career is a disgrace. He’s been eligible since 2005 and he’s Ozzy. That alone should make everyone disregard the whole thing.
Weird Al.
Iron fucking Maiden!
Iron Maiden it’s an absolute joke they’re after Dolly Parton and jay-z
Rage against the Machine. They kind of got screwed over when they decided Dolly Parton was a rocker.
Honestly what is the endgame for the R&R HOF? At what point do they stop with the inductions?
Alice In Chains?
Ah yes, Kate Bush the “Rock n Roll” icon.
Please go watch her concert Live at Hammersmith Odeon and then come back here and try to explain how this woman does not rock.
I never said she wasn’t a good artist with a bunch of talent. She’s just not a Rock N Roll artist. They just need to change the name to the Music Hall of Fame and be done with the pretense.
She most certainly began as a rock and roll artist (watch the concert video, really) and only then slowly transformed her style into something uniquely her own as many talented rockers do.
So, the way I think about it is that being inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame means that your body of work has had a major impact on the world of Rock N Roll. Subsequently, you don’t necessarily need to be a rock n’ roll artist to belong in that hall of fame. This is why artists like James Brown and Aretha Franklin were some of the earliest inductees. So if Kate Bush has influenced enough rock and roll artists, you could easily justify putting her in there.
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DEVO and The B-52's need to go in, both fantastic bands who truly changed the scape of music. They could easily put DEVO in under early influences, and I'm positive The B-52's could rack up just enough votes to squeeze in if the ballot is somewhat weak.
Still no love for Jethro Tull? Not even here in the comments? Or is it too ridiculous to even bring them up anymore?
How much of it was Devo and how much Eno?
No Rush, no Thin Lizzy, no Little Feat, no legitimacy.
Really…….Fishbone?
Kate Bush should not be on it. Why just because her one hit wonder came back into style lol?
How about all the artists she influenced - that's one of the main reasons she should be in there. Get a clue.
LMAO. Too funny. She was influenced, she didn't do the influencing. Get a clue. Seriously, you don't seem to know what you are talking about.
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/six-artists-inspired-by-kate-bush/
Six artists inspired by Kate Bush
Joe Taysom
SUN 6TH NOV 2022 14.00 GMT
Kate Bush is a timeless artist who continues to influence every generation that breaks through to this day. It has been over 40 years since her career was launched as a teenager with ‘Wuthering Heights’, a song which illuminated the musical world and thrust a budding musician into major leagues.
In 2022, Bush found a new demographic thanks to the hit Netflix series Stranger Things, a show that included her song, ‘Running Up That Hill’, and added a new chapter to her evolving legacy. Despite only reaching number three in the UK Official Chart when it was released in 1985, the song spent three weeks at the top of the chart following the release of the hit Netflix show.
In an interview with BBC Radio 4, Bush discussed her new-found success with the younger generation. She commented: “Well, it’s just extraordinary. I mean, you know, it’s such a great series, I thought that the track would get some attention. But I just never imagined that it would be anything like this. It’s so exciting. But it’s quite shocking really, isn’t it? I mean, the whole world’s gone mad.”
Even before the resurgence of ‘Running Up That Hill’, Bush still had a stranglehold over the musical landscape, despite not prolifically releasing material. Her influence can be felt across the musical spectrum, and the list below showcases the breadth of Bush’s talent.
Six artists inspired by Kate Bush:
St. Vincent
Simply drawing a line between Kate Bush and any female performer who writes, records and performs her own work is an easy thing to do. Drawing a line between Bush and the mercurial talent of Annie Clark, aka St. Vincent, is a drag of the pen that happens of its own propulsion. The New Yorker has often spoken of her love for the ethereal pop princess, but it was the notes of when she first discovered the artist that accurately reflect the moment most of Bush’s fans have experienced.
Speaking with Pitchfork in 2007, Clark noted: “this may sound really silly– but I just discovered Kate Bush, probably six months ago, and I think she’s so great. I know I’m very late to the party here, I know this is old news, but I got a Kate Bush record, and I forget– I think ‘The Dreaming’ is on it, though I’m spacing on the name of the record. [The Dreaming.] It has Kate Bush in this totally miraculous ascot, too, on the back. She just went for it. It’s so great. She totally went for it.” The commitment, disruptive nature and complete refusal to bow down to gender norms is something often cited as some of Kate Bush’s main draws, and it is easy to see how Clark would take this emboldened vision and apply it to her own sound.
Radiohead
Although Radiohead have never explicitly declared their love of Kate Bush, she’s clearly influenced their work. The sonic pallet used for OK Computer is cut from the same cloth as Bush’s oeuvre, and Thom Yorke’s vocal approach is also reminiscent of her work.
When Radiohead worked on A Moon Shaped Pool between 2014 and 2016, they even invited Bush up to their studio to visit them, according to an interview they gave with Q. Furthermore, they also revealed Bush also attended one of their shows in London, which proves the respect between the pair is reciprocal.
Big Boi
Outkast’s Big Boi’s love of Kate Bush is limitless. Undoubtedly, the rapper is in her top 0.1% of fans on Spotify. He even travelled to London from Atlanta to watch her perform at the Hammersmith Apollo in 2014 when Bush performed a 22-date residency. They’ve even built a friendship, and have hung out together, which was a dream come true for Big Boi.
Explaining why he loves the work of Kate Bush, he told Pitchfork: “Her songs tell stories; we also tell stories. Sometimes there is a double meaning in what she says. And the layers of production—how the songs morph, they might start one way then they morph and break down into something. It’s very theatrical.”
Björk
Björk has never shied away from heaping praise on Kate Bush. She’s a figure who the Icelandic singer has adored for years, and in Björk’s opinion, she believes this is a direct consequence of sexism in the music industry.
In an interview with The Guardian, Björk said: “It was kind of sexist. People thought that Kate Bush was insane. People were embarrassed about admitting that they actually liked her and I think that is something, actually, one good thing about feminism nowadays is that she is not a threat at all”.
Björk doubled down on her fandom of Bush in an interview around the time of her album Debut. She called Bush “one of my heroes” and referred to her as “one of the biggest pioneering producers. Everybody just says, ‘Oh, she’s just a singer. She’s just a chick’. But they forget all the other work she’s done, that woman. She’s very, very, very gorgeous”.
Placebo
Stranger Things introduced an army of people to the majesty of ‘Running Up That Hill’, but they weren’t the first to do so. In 2003, Placebo covered the track for their Covers album, charting at 44 on the UK chart. In an interview with The Guardian, frontman Brian Molko has spoken about his relationship with the work of Bush and his earliest memory of her.
“My first exposure to Kate Bush was the video for ‘Babooshka’ when I was a preteen,” he revealed. “I’d never seen anything like it: who is this person from outer space, singing an incredibly strange song? I was completely captivated by this beautiful woman who had such charisma and seemed so unique.
“Then I discovered that my older brother had [album] The Kick Inside, so I was introduced to ‘The Man With the Child in His Eyes’ and ‘Wuthering Heights’. Then [in 1985] Hounds of Love came out and blew my mind completely.”
London Grammar
London Grammar, who rose to prominence with their debut album, If You Wait, in 2013. Their debut was followed up in 2017 with the chart-topping record Truth Is a Beautiful Thing. The group’s USP is the classically-trained vocals of Hannah Reid, which adds a delicacy to their sound, and unsurprisingly, she listed Bush as a major influence.
In an interview with Fiasco Magazine, Reid revealed: “Being in London Grammar, I have found nuances distinctive to the songs we write, but there are female vocalists I am hugely influenced by who made me think I could hit notes – Kate Bush.”
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LMAO. Thanks for the wall of text.
You found 6 artists that listened to a one hit wonder, she should be in the hall of fame!
In no way is Kate Bush good enough to be in the hall of fame.
All music influences other music. But Kate Bush is far from a legendary artist. She exists, made a hit, and that is it. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't kid yourself when there are clearly better artists (many listed in this thread) that should actually be in the HOF.
If Kate Bush qualifies for the HOF, so does Len. Because Steal My Sunshine definitely influenced a hand full of artists right? Laughable.
Running Up That Hill really isn't her only hit. Pretty much every single she released went at least top 50 in the UK and she's had a few number ones (Wuthering Heights, Cloudbusting). She also featured on Games Without Frontiers and Don't Give Up which were hits for Peter Gabriel. I really like her, but it's fair not to of course.
yeah she shouldn’t be in the hall of fame. But because the hall of fame sucks. Kate is a legendary artist
Don't feel bad about the downvotes. I'm right there with you. I'm 34 and have been a HUGE fan of the 80's since elementary school. Never heard of Kate Bush or "Running up that Hill" until Stranger Things. Definitely shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.
Who am I gonna trust? David Gilmour and a plethora of musicians who have adored her for years or the dude on Reddit who never heard of her because she wasn’t on a Radio Disney Kid Jams CD?
She has had less influence on rock and music in general than L7 and Shonen Knife (who are STILL releasing bangers), as largely unknown as they both are.
Not even a huge Type O Negative fan, but even I recognize that a deep-track band like them has had more influence than Kate Bush.
Running up that hill was literally her only hit, and it wasn't even a BIG hit until Stranger Things integrated the song into a popular storyline in 2021.
L7 and Shonen Knife largely unknown? Running up that Hill is Bush’s only hit?
Now I know you’re just being daft but I can’t tell if it’s on purpose.
Oh give me a break. NO ONE knows who L7 and Shonen Knife are unless they're a grunge head, and a DEEP TRACK grunge head at that.
Look at the first 20 "top hits of the 80s" playlists on YouTube and I doubt Kate Bush would be on a single one. If she is, it's going to be "Running up that Hill" AND it will have been added to the playlist AFTER Stranger Things, because no one knew who she was pre-Stranger Things. Her name was never mentioned before 1 year ago
OK, so it's on purpose then.
Its a good point you made. It would be much better if the artist or bands inducted into the Hall of Fame had a lengthy catalog. Add to that a long-lasting impact on music itself. The fact bands like The Eurythmics got in before Rush is a crime. Thats not a slight against The Eurythmics because they were a great band but against Rush they are much lower on the ladder of rock.
LMAO. You must be a kid and live in the US.
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Devo should've been there ages ago. The true extent of their influence isn't known by most.