Submitted by NavJongUnPlayandwon t3_zwfy3w in Music
I know. I can sense the downvotes coming and the furious typing, but i'll try to keep it short and sweet and ask you just hear my out. I'll even link a couple references. Don't hate. Constructive arguments please. I looked into this with a neutral mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIobMW9c7s&t=39s (Rihanna approved of this btw).
One incident that really sticks out for Chris Brown and absolutely haunts him to this day, 13 years plus later, is the Rihanna incident. The thread covers some of that. But as a neutral, and after looking into it for a bit, I feel it has to be heard. Chris is in the wrong 1000% for being reckless, impulsive, and doing the damage he did to her. he's meant to be the man in the situation and trying to defuse the situation. I'm not victim-blaming Rihanna. My point is it wasn’t this one-way street of the horrifying damage Chris inflicted upon her in that moment of madness like the police report lets on. Seeing the images of the injuries of Rihanna and the police report. It just doesn't add up. Especially Chris would be able to do all this while driving. Rihanna wasn’t this innocent angel when she aggressed the situation and took it to a physical level despite Chris constantly urging for her to drop it so he could drive to the Grammys while denying he had no idea about this girl Rihanna suspected chris was lying on. Apparently, Rihanna was under the influence of alcohol and pot at the time, apparently underage aswell and the authorities did nothing about it. You gotta remember Chris was driving this rented Lambo, trying to not crash. I had even heard from Rihanna's lawyer somewhere on Reddit that Chris never got violent like the police report described and only ever said those criminal threats apparently as a last measure to get Rihanna to drop it. I'd even looked up online that a police report can be inaccurate as the authorities are only human after in their observations. im not bashing the authorities by any means. im simply questioning the approach they took to a situation where no one will truly billion percent know what happened that night. This was a case where the two of them could've gotten therapy before it got so toxic and physical like this. trust issues. Rihanna was hella forgiving towards Chris and took him back immediately cuz she knew he was never this abuser and knew she wasn't the innocent angel in that situation the media portrayed her to be. She disagreed with the restraining order the judge imposed on Chris aswell. Chris wanted to protect her, cared for her when he turned himself in and refused to speak about the situation for Rihanna's privacy at the time, and supported her speaking out about the situation while he took all the flack and losses. rihanna's family forgave chris aswell after seeing how remorseful he was about it. Shame all this never came out in 2009 for as much as I know, could’ve really given a deep insight into what really happened. A lot was lost for Chris once ppl heard of it as Chris brown just beat up Rihanna and made criminal threats and took it there. blackballled big time. The truth matters. That's just kinda how i saw it after looking into it for a while. What do you all think? I ask you to be constructive and not spam insults my way and look into this aswell.
i get ppl hate that he's polarizing and really unfiltered and how he handles certain allegations, but that's just him playing up to the monster image a lot of media paint him as even after he's a different person. he's like i'll show you a monster. worth mentioning i dont blame chris too much for acting this way cuz a lot of media have treated him and his name as a punching bag ever since 2009 because he's the hot topic. Likes of Charlie Sheen, Jay Z never got the heat Chris got even though you could argue they were worse. can't bash him for being enraged, and impulsive. Chris grew to be quite toxic imo as the years passed from the drugs and mental health problems. I'm pretty sure he said so many times that music was his way to escape reality and connect with his fans. I'm not a diehard Chris Brown fan btw. I'm playing devil's advocate here.
NavJongUnPlayandwon OP t1_j1uczup wrote
To give a perspective on how much Chris Brown lost to this incident. I'll break it down.
- 7 years in probation
-5 months in jail
(i argue these two sentences are fair considering chris did plead guilty and owned up to it .)
-BANNED FROM RADIO AND TV.
-sponsors like wriggly (doublemint ad) in 2008 dropped him, he got stripped from sesame street. the see the signs song he did with elmo is no longer part of that episode.
-Banned from visiting other countries.
-20 MILLION DOLLARS + loss of endorsement deals.
-Banned from award shows
-Blackballed albums as well know like his Graffiti album at the time in 2009.