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Ahiru77 t1_j1fp6ma wrote

I'm glad Megan is finally vindicated in all of this. She powered through this like a champ.

And rappers who actively sided with Tory just cause they like him need to seriously rethink their values/principles in life.

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CutieBoBootie t1_j1gjdsf wrote

DRAKE. 21 SAVAGE. Fuck them.

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Logrologist t1_j1gz2gl wrote

Oh, cool. Another reason not to like Drake. (As if I needed more)

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jdino t1_j1ioq5j wrote

I can’t believe he lied about being in a wheelchair for so long!

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memphis10_901 t1_j1imsy4 wrote

I just can't understand why 21 jumped on a record with Canadian Disney kid ass Drake. I like everything he's done but I tried listening to that new album and turned it off immediately.

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WhiskyAtNoon t1_j1j67wp wrote

Jesus everytime drake hopped on bro.... 🤦‍♂️

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CutieBoBootie t1_j1in0gu wrote

Well if he had to choose between two d tier Canadian rappers he might as well pick the one with more money 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Suncheets t1_j1i8i5j wrote

21 savage suuuuuuuuuuuucks. Twenty one ^twenty ^one

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1i3nub wrote

I just wish she had the sense in the first place to call the police, it would have helped her a lot on that front.

Her explanation about fearing how a black person would be treated by police (after shooting someone in the foot) was idiotic at best.

I believe she believed it, but it's a perfect example of how victimizers get away with victimizing others and how it spreads through society.

EDIT: The people downvoting this are racist, whether they realize it or not. Treat all races the same. If you see someone shoot another person or you are yourself shot: Call the fucking police and get help.

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pterofactyl t1_j1i7mr4 wrote

Why was it idiotic? It’s true, she knows that if you report a black person has a gun and shot a person, that situation is likely to go downhill very fast. Diminishing her reasoning like that is ignorant of the weight that calling the police has

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1id99s wrote

The problem was that in this situation the person had a gun and shot someone already. Regardless of his race the situation was already downhill.

Imagine if he went on to shoot someone else in an erratic fit and she didn't call the police.

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pterofactyl t1_j1iekmv wrote

Yes, but do you understand how the possibility of this man being shot unlawfully would cause hesitation? Open your eyes and understand that for many people it’s not as simple as “see crime, call to get man arrested”. She had to fully consider if she wanted this guy to be shot for this

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1id0yb wrote

The situation already went downhill. You had a man with a gun, shooting at a woman while yelling "dance".

If the police weren't so afraid to react to people like this, then maybe he wouldn't have felt so emboldened to do what he did.

He literally 'knew' he would get away with it. That's actual privilege. And if it weren't for prosecutors (who weren't afraid of him) he would have gotten away with it.

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pterofactyl t1_j1ieqif wrote

What? I’m simply explaining where the hesitation is coming from. If you can’t understand that it Carries more moral weight than the decision on paper then you’re wilfully ignorant.

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Ecdamon86 t1_j1i7xfo wrote

Cops need to be less scary to call.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kho48 wrote

Atleast that's something we can all agree on.

Not calling the police was wrong, but the core issue is that she felt she couldn't call the police.

Hopefully everyone learned a lesson from this: Tory Lanes to stop fucking shooting people and Megan to have more faith in the system.

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aangnesiac t1_j1ipr3c wrote

>EDIT: The people downvoting this are racist, whether they realize it or not. Treat all races the same. If you see someone shoot another person or you are yourself shot: Call the fucking police and get help.

This is ridiculous. First, you're making a pretty big assumption about why you're getting down voted. But more importantly, you are effectively suggesting that it is racist when race influences a decision or action. That can only be true in an egalitarian society. Otherwise, you are effectively saying "pretend the problem doesn't exist and it will go away". Which is absurd. Race matters in our country.

Black people have a valid reason to not want to involve the police. You seem to be under the impression that someone must be delusional to feel that way. I'm certain if you earnestly and honestly tried to understand why this mistrust exists then you would realize how ridiculous your comment is. Instead, you seem to be approaching it from the assumption that it has to be unreasonable and trying to prove yourself right.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kg2jf wrote

>But more importantly, you are effectively suggesting that it is racist when race influences a decision or action.

No, I'm saying that having different rules for different races is racist, because it simply is.

I understand that you mean well and that she probably did to, but the issue is the damage that you're doing to society by further spreading victimization and by giving others a pass to do so.

This wasn't a case where a person said something mean to another person, or littered, or tresspassed even. This was a grown ass man who shot a woman in the foot while yelling, "dance".

You guys are absolutely being racist when you decide that there should be two different sets of rules and regulations for different races. If it were flipped around, you'd be pissed.

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aangnesiac t1_j1kmykb wrote

>No, I'm saying that having different rules for different races is racist, because it simply is

And I'm saying that there aren't separate rules but that the rules are more complicated than "if X race, then Y race". It's the same reason that you can't ignore advanced math simply because it's too complicated. History and context must be considered when making "rules". To assert otherwise is in conflict with proper logic.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kvez5 wrote

There are separate rules, but the suggestion is that there should be.

As you said, history and context matter. Historically speaking, having different rules for different races is how our legal system became what it is today. You're making the same mistake, just going the other direction.

Creating legal priviledge defined by race; That's what you're unintentionally advocating for.

Or what I suspect: You and the rest do.

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aangnesiac t1_j1lc0tc wrote

>You're making the same mistake, just going the other direction.

Nope. You've made assumptions. You have conflated the expected reaction to history with racism.

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Optimal_Locke t1_j1itzku wrote

You must not be black in America, otherwise this bullshit wouldn't have left your brain. Police terrorize their communities for generations, but they're just supposed to trust them when they're needed. Gtfo

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kg88b wrote

You know who else terrorized a community? Tory Lanez when he shot someone in the foot.

But I see your point, maybe if we gave him a pass on this one shooting he wouldn't go on to do it again.

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Optimal_Locke t1_j1khdok wrote

Who is said pass? No one. Literally NO ONE is advocating to give him a pass. We're simply trying to get you to understand where Megan's head was when she didn't want to call the cops. Personally, I wouldn't call the cops unless they were literally the last resort. Cops in America are thugs and I wouldn't trust them to change a light bulb. They'd probably end up shooting someone's kid...

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jdino t1_j1ioy88 wrote

The police are racist and black people 100% have a reason and plenty of history to back up their fear of them.

You know all this but have an agenda I’m sure.

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lord_pizzabird t1_j1kh4nx wrote

>Would you feel guilty if the cops came and killed someone you suspected was stealing your bicycle? I

He didn't steal a bicycle. He shot her intentionally.

You're trying to conflate to completely different situations, one where it's more understandable and another where it was absolutely ridiculous given the seriousness of the crime.

>In our world the victim/suspect’s race plays a part in thinking about calling the cops. Until the cops and justice system are trustworthy to minorities they will always hesitate to call

The point I was making above is that this mindset doesn't address or help the problem, but spreads the victimization and

Again, I fully understand and believe that you guys have the best of intentions with this and I totally understand where you're coming from, but it's just not helpful and it's really a lot of what's wrong with our legal system.

Fixing this requires people at an individual level doing what they're supposed to do, from people who witness a violent crime to the officers that respond.

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Si8u t1_j1gensf wrote

"This bitch lie ’bout getting shots, but she still a stallion,” - Drake is a clown

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Kumoufu t1_j1ghfua wrote

I wouldn’t quote pedos

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Uberslaughter t1_j1gjaqf wrote

How many girls did Drake groom?

At least Eleven.

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PapuhBoie t1_j1gswhv wrote

Heard his favourite Canadian Nü metal band is Finger Eleven

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gradease t1_j1h64zw wrote

Don't go dragging the pride of Burlington, my boys from Rainbow Butt Monkeys Finger Eleven, into this.

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Kootsiak t1_j1hiyxm wrote

I'm old enough to remember the Rainbow ButtMonkeys too.

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Fishtaco1234 t1_j1i5336 wrote

Remember the band Slurpymundae from Burlington? Awful name , but amazing album

https://youtu.be/nuD32mSxuHw

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gradease t1_j1ik040 wrote

Oh hell yeah, they changed their name to Idle Sons at some point. I saw them open for Finger Eleven in the early 2000's, great energy. I think they only released one album under that name, but I remember it being solid as well.

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PapuhBoie t1_j1ivqck wrote

As far as I can spit is a legitimately great song

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gradease t1_j1j3stc wrote

HELP MEEEEE

Hell of a song to kick off an album, for sure.

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BenUFOs_Mum t1_j1hfsh9 wrote

God I hate Drake lol.

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Kootsiak t1_j1hj7ud wrote

i never did like him and his lazy voice style of singing is so fucking annoying to listen.

If you are a Drake fan, go listen to people with actual good voices who can put all the emotion into their performance. You will realize there are actual artists out there who do mind blowing stuff and y'all just listen to basic ass Drake.

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Strength-Speed t1_j1hujo8 wrote

For real, I can identify a Drake song by asking myself "Do I feel annoyed?", and if I am it is usually Drake. I usually get most musical tastes, I don't get Drake. Sure some songs are ok, but so many are just incredibly annoying.

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ItsNotABimma t1_j1hydi9 wrote

Just gonna put it out there, but when he was getting radio play between 08-10 I honestly thought he was biting hard off of Lil Wayne’s flow and trying his hardest to imitate it.

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fungusfish t1_j1i0iz9 wrote

He’s got a reputation for stealing flows and cadences from other rappers. XXX, Wayne, Eminem and migos to name a few I’ve heard of

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[deleted] t1_j1igq42 wrote

Way back when I was in high school I listened to the Take Care album on repeat. Then I outgrew it and haven't listened to much of his stuff since. The only thing I really listen to that has him is Going Bad but I love the way it sounds in my car. I can't name one solo Drake song that's come out since ... Hold on We're Going Home?

There's definitely way better artists out there but everyone has their own style. Some people like his lazy style. My music tastes are all over the place so I really enjoy some creativity in my music.

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Kootsiak t1_j1irzve wrote

That's fair. I don't mean to say there is nothing to his music or that it's wrong just to like the way music sounds to you. I try not to have any judgment for most genres and people liking what sounds like bad music to me, but I do get upset when people make mediocre artists into international, super rich celebrities. But many times that's just me being extra grumpy that day.

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[deleted] t1_j1iu51l wrote

No, your words have merit. The most obscene and talentless individuals are often brought to the limelight. The Kardashians, although an easy one, are an example.

In my own opinion there's a big difference between a full band writing their own music, lyrics, and actually playing to be proficient versus someone such as Beyonce in 'Run the World (Girls)' who did absolutely nothing but sing what others wrote for her to a music track someone else made for her as well. That's why I usually opt for some lesser known indie bands and smaller metal bands. I remember listening to Wage War and Villain of the Story open for other artists before they were able to stand on their own. But I digress because I could discuss music all day! Lol

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Kupo773 t1_j274x32 wrote

Drake was relevant when Thank me later came out but after Quentin Miller Was outed as his Ghostwriter my respect and attention vanished.

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infodawg t1_j1fpb8e wrote

Not sure what led to the shooting but just gonna say, it's nice when artists can feel safe in public....

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Shakemyears t1_j1fvbhh wrote

I read that he pulled the gun out and said “dance” and shot at her feet for fun.

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infodawg t1_j1fwuxx wrote

A whacked out guy with a gun.

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jonathan4211 t1_j1gkczh wrote

Or - a real life cowboy

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Jacobloveslsd t1_j1h6zkj wrote

You know he didn’t have a holster or boots with spurs.

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TheWeathermann17 t1_j1hpdqc wrote

Gun without a holster,

Boots without spurs, without spurs,

got mad and shot at her

She hit the the floor

To jail you go-go-go-go-go

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Jwgotti t1_j1hrsag wrote

Totally picturing the crazy Texan from the Simpson's

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connaire t1_j1gxhpr wrote

And left bullet fragments in her feet that had to be surgically removed. So he shot her.

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[deleted] t1_j1gzg84 wrote

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code_turtle t1_j1h3i1w wrote

“Just looked into this today” and already out here spreading misinformation, smh

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sly_savhoot t1_j1hk9yf wrote

Best girl friends always get into gun scuffles after drinking all night with someone else gun. Sure , that’s a theory. A bad one. I’d say with the video he’s pretty guilty. Megan didnt bring this case the DA did and she testified. As she said this did nothing good for her so why would she do it? Motive alone leaves a lot for the defense to prove.

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Canbvoy t1_j1hhsww wrote

Artists? Is that what nobodys are calling themselves now? At least they’re not claiming to be “influencers”

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MaesterPraetor t1_j1hwad4 wrote

"I don't like it, so it isn't art." GTFOH

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Canbvoy t1_j1l9f91 wrote

You don’t like my opinion (given I’ve never heard of either of them) so you don’t want to be exposed to it so I have to GTFOH, yeah right

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MaesterPraetor t1_j1m1lbv wrote

Get over yourself with this sanctimonious nonsense. You literally said it wasn't art and they are nobodies.

Here's your logic:

I don't like the Beatles.

Therefore, the Beatles are nobodies, and their music is not art.

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Canbvoy t1_j1p8uhd wrote

Get a life and stop your opinionated BS. You’re obviously living in a world of your own if you can’t see the difference between my posts and your twisted interpretation. Fine, whatever, your opinion means nothing. Bye xxx

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dannybrickwell t1_j1ld925 wrote

Both of these people FAR from nobodies - both very successful and very public figures. I would consider both of them artists, and I truly wonder if "I haven't heard of them, so they must not be artists" is actually the stance you're taking here

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QuarkTIB t1_j1fxw7j wrote

Thank fuck

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God-Hound t1_j1hqf9m wrote

I wasn’t ready for misogynists to stupidly dickride a Tory lanez victory in this for the next decade. Thank god for the guilty verdict.

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justcreepingaround t1_j1hm952 wrote

For those not familiar with the case, the felony charges were assault with a semiautomatic firearm, carrying a loaded unregistered firearm in a vehicle, and discharge of a firearm with gross negligence, according to prosecutors.

Tory Lanez was on Felony probation already from a prior incident. The jury was presented with 47 evidence items that confirmed above.

Sentencing will happen in January 2023 and he faces up to 23 years in prison and deportation.

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scizormytimbers t1_j1hxudo wrote

I'm happy there are things like this that I can read when I feel like I've fucked up in some minor, inconsequential way.

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Intelligent-Gene4099 t1_j1hxvya wrote

He'll get slapped cuz hes famous

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Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy t1_j1jcokx wrote

Nah him already being on probation means he’ll do time. Deportation is likely too. Which is great, fuck him all the way back to Canada or whatever rock he crawled out from under.

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SrRoundedbyFools t1_j1gy085 wrote

So this clown gets caught with a gun he shouldn’t have in the US in 2017 and gets to keep his visa? Why wasn’t he deported back to Canada then.

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theofiel t1_j1h4zsn wrote

Looking at your username, the answer is very close by.

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AnniaT t1_j1hleys wrote

Everyone lied on the stand but even with the reasonable doubt and omissions and lies by Kelsey, Tory and even Megan, there's still no doubt that Megan was shot by Tory and was a victim so I'm glad with this verdict.

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goliathfasa t1_j1goojp wrote

Wait, Megan Three Stallions was shot?

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Boofer2 t1_j1gre53 wrote

No, a previous poster clarified he shot at her feet and said "dance cowgirl" /s

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connaire t1_j1gxeay wrote

> She was taken by ambulance to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where doctors found bullet fragments in her foot, which required surgery to remove.

Ya na he shot her.

Edit: you’re a clown adding the /s after getting fact checked. Your stupid ass statement isn’t even sarcasm.

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drgonnzo t1_j1hki4d wrote

When I first went to US for work experience 20 years ago my English was very bad. And one day my manager is telling me that his grandma got shot. I was horrified but he seemed not as freaked out. Only later I understood shot doesn’t mean shot dead. But to this day when I hear shot I think the person is dead.

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Obnoxiousdonkey t1_j1gyq70 wrote

Unless he edited more than just adding the s, what he said is pretty extreme and outlandish. I get the feeling he just added it since it seemed like someone needed to fact check him

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McDonalds_Toothpaste t1_j1hfbxx wrote

Their joke couldn't be more obvious. Not their fault you're on the spectrum and didn't get it.

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connaire t1_j1hgp69 wrote

Their joke was a statement when I made the reply. Obscuring actual facts of the case. The dude shot her, that’s the fact of the matter. Shooting at her feet doesn’t make a difference, she got fragments in her feet. She got shot.

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earhere t1_j1gvarn wrote

watching hasan debate dj akademics and fresh and fit guys was the best part of this whole debacle

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griffenkranz t1_j1i0px8 wrote

Remember when Drake wrote that lyric about this for attention then was, as expected, wrong?

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SideStreetSister t1_j1hn7g3 wrote

Can somebody tell me why all these names have negative points but no comments behind them? Were they deleted by the mods?

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TwisterUprocker t1_j1iae81 wrote

Bet that "she was an elf in disguise defense" worked great in court.

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Jobra819 t1_j1iswas wrote

Lol this dude chose a pornstars name as a stage name. Not hard to believe he makes bad decisions in life.

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emmaleechase t1_j1icy1r wrote

Glad to see they got a conviction. What an a$$.

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Grinols t1_j1jxgc8 wrote

Don't forget after Dax dissed Tory Lanez last year or 2? That he found him in public, chased him down in a car of goons, held him at gun point, and made him apologize on camera.

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Callan126 t1_j1i0zky wrote

That’s what happens when you chill with ratchet. You get ratchet shit happening to you. They both need to evaluate their life decisions.

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OmegaOmerta t1_j1hwv8o wrote

Free Tory he's innocent

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griffenkranz t1_j1i1x8v wrote

Who’s going to tell him…

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OmegaOmerta t1_j1i2v36 wrote

Lol ik know he's convicted. I'm trying to see how much karma I can lose today

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kazooooomka t1_j1h31jh wrote

Turns out Torry Lanez is a Nicki fan ☺️

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[deleted] t1_j1gdg64 wrote

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CGordini t1_j1gn41u wrote

Literally wishing death on someone, and can't get your terminology right.

Real winner here.

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ToPimpAYeezy t1_j1ghgfc wrote

The fuck is wrong with you

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CutieBoBootie t1_j1gjkvh wrote

It's called Misogynoir and it'd be faster to say this person just hates black women.

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rcnfitz t1_j1hf57a wrote

Are you fucking kidding me??? This is what the NY Times allows to print? You pair Johnny Depp and Harvey Weinstien in the same comparison... you had ought to be damned ashamed of yourselves... smarten the hell up!!!

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chojinra t1_j1gzr8f wrote

Does anyone know the actual facts on the case? Not I heard, or I read, but the official versions from those involved and witnesses?

I am honestly asking as I didn’t care enough about this story to keep up with it, but I’m hearing conflicting things.

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griffenkranz t1_j1i1p1x wrote

Doesn’t asking Reddit for what happened constitute something you’ve “heard”? Lol

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chojinra t1_j1i2m1o wrote

It’s more asking people who might have followed the case what are the actual particulars of it, and maybe sources of that info I can check out. I did google it for a bit, but the news feeds weren’t that helpful.

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Kslooot t1_j1hv0gu wrote

There was eye witness testimony stating that they saw him shoot the gun multiple times when he claimed only Kelsey shot the gun. Don’t really need to know much else, he wasn’t charged with battery.

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[deleted] t1_j1h3vah wrote

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yamisensei t1_j1hlxdn wrote

Have you heard of Tory Lanez? It's strange that you mentioned a victim of a shooting in his negative light..

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buttsfartly t1_j1hmygv wrote

Curious how much they pay people to be victims? I have no doubt there are ample amounts of people desperate enough to want to be on either side of that transaction… cash for the victim, fame for the guy I never heard of.

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Canbvoy t1_j1hhno6 wrote

A nobody shot a nobody. Wow, who’d have guessed?

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yamisensei t1_j1hlyn5 wrote

Hoe, why is you here?

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Canbvoy t1_j1l9jq8 wrote

Not to listen to their shit. But expressing my opinion and getting snowflake reactions is a bit of a laugh

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MaesterPraetor t1_j1hwn2y wrote

I don't care for either one of them, but to call one of the most popular figures in music a nobody is fucking dumb.

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Canbvoy t1_j1l97uc wrote

Honestly I’ve never heard of either of them, and I suspect that will continue to serve me just fine

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[deleted] t1_j1ga2fj wrote

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terra_cotta t1_j1gcxjm wrote

Well they also frequently reference cocaine dealing and prostitution, which are illegal, so I'm gonna go with:

Nothing

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LastWave t1_j1hr243 wrote

Listen to modern country. They glamorize drinking and driving. They also like to sing about extra-judicial killing too.

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0ogaBooga t1_j1i4qrv wrote

Love the downvotes you got. Dude makes blanket generalization about rap (and black people by extension) and people are all on the same page, you make the EXACT SAME POINT about country music and somehow that's no longer right.

Fucking hypocrisy.

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jieceeepee t1_j1iim62 wrote

Exactly zero people seem like they were on the same page about the rap comment

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navigationallyaided t1_j1ghzhn wrote

They’ll still have them. Tupac still carried a Glock on him after Death Row bailed him out of jail.

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griffenkranz t1_j1i1fri wrote

Probably should have stopped typing after that first question lol… this comment gives the opposite of “tapped in to the rap game” lmao

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A_Run_Around_The_Sun t1_j1hu06d wrote

Apologized profusely in advance and still got downvoted for asking a simple question

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1gsyj1 wrote

Both guilty of making terrible music however

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Stallion_Girth t1_j1gva88 wrote

You haven't heard chixtape 2 then

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1gwqhu wrote

Yes, it's trash. Regardless, I don't give a fuck how many downvotes this gets.

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LikesTheTunaHere t1_j1h0okv wrote

Mind saying what would be considered good music?

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1h0riu wrote

A Tribe Called Quest for one. How many more hip-hop artists that are better do you want? I have time

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Think_Month5814 t1_j1hid8b wrote

ATCQ are nothing compared to recent developments in music

100 Gecs, Oliver Tree and Kero Kero Bonito are 100x more musical hip hop acts

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1hsw6e wrote

Congratulations for saying the least intelligent thing I will hear all day.

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Think_Month5814 t1_j1hyvw0 wrote

I mean my opinion is my opinion

It’s not like it’s possible to be objective about music taste

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1hz1se wrote

You have never heard A Tribe Called Quest based on your comments. And your favorite artists probably would say the same thing, even if they are modern and crap

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Think_Month5814 t1_j1hzabi wrote

That’s a valid opinion pal but I disagree

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dj_chai_wallah t1_j1hzkad wrote

On a scale of 1-10 how do you rate Drake? This will answer all I need to know

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Think_Month5814 t1_j1i1d94 wrote

Oh absolutely 10/10

Drake has done more for the industry than pac or biggie every did

Just compare the production and you’ll see that all Drake tracks sound 30 years better than the best Tupac song

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TheOneKane t1_j1gnhd3 wrote

You're the first person I've ever seen say that people shouldn't be punished for shooting someone.

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0x010000F t1_j1g5fgx wrote

Simp

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Obnoxiousdonkey t1_j1gyw99 wrote

It's not the prison system, which yes, could use work. But your complaint should be with the support system before it goes as far as someone shooting another person. Prison is after the fact. All you're saying is you want him to get off scot free and get help instead. Yes he should get help. But that should come before it gets to a shooting

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