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No-Context5479 t1_j0ymp1t wrote
The long answer will take a dissertation...
Short answer: Prejudice is somewhat mellowed, also generally a great genre that is the least gate keepy of genres
CaineRexEverything t1_j0yw0h6 wrote
It’s been popular since the 80s. Reached across the world in the early-mid 90s, broke into the global mainstream at the turn of the millennium. It ushered in entertainment media presenting rappers as a-list music celebrities, Eminem being a significant early figure in this, along with Snoop and Puffy. It has since had strong creative influence in fields of film, literature, art, fashion, dance, poetry. Now it’s the dominant music genre worldwide.
bulbous_plant t1_j0yw2av wrote
Yes, but my 13 year old Irish nieces also love it now. That didn’t happen 40 years ago.
bulbous_plant t1_j0yw5k1 wrote
Interesting re: predjudice. It’s not a style of music for me, so I’m trying to understand why it’s so popular
fredvee045 t1_j0ywp6b wrote
the internet
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Executeorder69_ t1_j0yxo27 wrote
It kinda stagnated since the year 2006 then became massively popular around 6 years ago
Executeorder69_ t1_j0yxqu6 wrote
It’s just a new form of pop music and the lyrics tend to appeal more to people
your_friend_dingus t1_j0yymtu wrote
Thx for the recommendation, I will give it a try
Z01nkDereity t1_j0z6jhz wrote
Mainly thanks to people like Kendrick Lamar, Drake and a certain fella who lost his rails if ya know what I mean
frankwhiteXVII t1_j0zbbto wrote
The internet is the reason.
GrooseandGoot t1_j0zesba wrote
Yes it did. They just werent born yet.
Rap has been mainstream since the 80s and the top of pop culture since the 90s
highyaller t1_j0zlxrm wrote
I would that the internet provided an opportunity for not only different genres in rap to grow but also become mainstream. A good reference to this is OPs metal - the genres within metal are vast and have grown over the years from sabbath/thrash/black into a hundred genres all more nuanced. Hip-hop and rap are similar and it allows for more individuals to find a niche they like.
b_lett t1_j0znkvg wrote
Hip Hop recently had its '50th birthday' so the genre goes back way further than most people think. Hip hop has been through quite a few re-inventions of itself over the decades, from conscientious boom bap to gangster rap to blog era rap to mumble rap and so on.
I think the reason why it's been the genre that dominates globally for decades is because of the overall feeling that it gives off. Hip hop and rap is both aggressive and empowering. It's rags to riches. It's motivational workout music. It pumps you up. It's storytelling. It's danceable. It offers a lot.
It's very competitive within itself. More than most other genres, the 'come up' is a huge part of hip hop. The early part of any rapper's career is big because that's when they're hungriest to make it. It's their 'freshman' year so to speak. The competitiveness of hip hop ensures that the artists try and push each other throughout the years to stay on top of their game and sharp with the pen. It's a genre one has to prove themselves in, and the veterans and newcomers are pushing each other alike. It's pretty amazing when some of the best rap music coming out in 2022 is from some of the originators of the genre; see Nas and Hit Boy working together on the King's Disease projects.
And ultimately, people resonate with all of this. When you consider around 50% of the world lives on like $5 a day, hip hop has often been a way to give a voice to the voiceless, to empower people to tell their own stories in a way that's meaningful and impactful. It's one of the leading genres when it comes to dance choreography as well. It's often associated with what's hip and trending from a cultural and marketing perspective. It's often used for political protest musically.
It's bold, loud, and full of people speaking truth to power. Sure there's some trash and lazy variants of it, but for the most part, it's to the current generation what rock and roll was for decades before. Also, some of the most interesting things in music come from hip hop and rap because of the combination and fusions of genres and sounds that people would not have tried elsewhere outside of electronic music. Yet both hip hop and electronic music still get lambasted as not 'being real music' by people who are just closed minded.
TL;DR, most people don't live very comfortable lives, and hip hop is a form of music that beautifully captures the struggle and represents individuals who overcame that to see success. People ultimately want to overcome their own struggles, and hip hop is often the soundtrack of people's choosing.
CrossXFir3 t1_j0zptdx wrote
10-15 years? Bro, it's been popular my entire life and I'm in my 30s
CrossXFir3 t1_j0zqlfh wrote
Cause people like it. It's lyrically complex, uses interesting beats, builds on other very popular genres. What exactly are you asking? Rap has been popular for decades. It's not really that old of a genre in the grand scheme of music and it didn't take very long for it to catch on. As the internet and such as made music easier to obtain and listen to it's going to spread more and more.
BodhiK187 t1_j0zt1xc wrote
IMHO.... Rap has been on the decline for the past 10-15 years. I am a huge fan of old school hip-hop but the new rappers just aren't cutting it. I buy about 20 albums a year and could not tell you the last rap album I bought. It was probably Del the Funky Homosapien/Amp Live's Gate 13 album (2018) with a couple of singles here and there. Rap is dead.
YellowSubreddit8 t1_j0zu9uw wrote
It's easy to produce. Less expensive to produce shows. Beats require less attention and can just set vibes.
Rythm makes ppl groovy.
This is over generalizing cause there are exceptions.
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j100ekd wrote
I would say it really depends on what you define as "Rap."
And there are many different sub-genres of Rap, just as there are different sub-genres of Rock.
There's your classic retro 80s Rap like LL Cool J, the Beastie Boys, Run DMC, etc.
There's G-Funk like Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, Warren G & Nate Dogg.
There's Gangsta Rap like 2pac & Biggie.
There's "cerebral" Rap like Wu Tang Clan, Grave Diggaz, Jedi Mind Tricks, Company Flow.
There's "Horror Rap" like Insane Clown Posse (who owe much of their style to Esham, as does early Eminem -- the dude literally says in a track "I'm a cross between Manson, Esham & Ozzy").
There's dark abstract rap like Cage (Chris Palko) -- and his later albums like "Depart From Me" & "Kill The Architect" dabble in an Industrial sound that's kinda reminiscent of bands like Skinny Puppy & OhGr.
There's "Conscious Rap" like Common, Talib Kweli & Mos Def.... Also, Sage Francis & B. Dolan.
There's super underground stuff like Eyedea, who made tracks that were practically art. Like "Music Music" and "Birth of A Fish" and "Here For You."
There's Rock Rap like Kid Rock (he ended up going fully into Country).
There's also purely Instrumental stuff like The Avalanches, Nujabes, Vanilla.
There's "Melodic Singing Rap" like Bone Thugs N Harmony.
Rap / Hip Hop was diverse ~ even before it was fully mainstream.
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j10151s wrote
Rap stagnated because people got addicted to the "ABBIDY-DABBIDY-DOOBITY" triplets flow, mumbled half audible lyrics and those ratchet Trap Beats.
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j101bnf wrote
Good Kid, Mad City is actually not a bad album. It tells a ~coherent~ story, which is more than I can say for anything by Playboi Carti. I can't even make out what that guy is saying in his songs....
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j102j1w wrote
I try to give everything a chance at least once, in case I might find something good.
Here's what I like.
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Rock / Industrial / Metal:
Slayer, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson, Tool, A Perfect Circle, Smashing Pumpkins, Dredg, Fear Factory, Korn, Slipknot, MUDVAYNE, Mushroom Head, KMFDM, VNV Nation, ELUVIETIE.
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Foreign Stuff:
~Japanese~
DIR EN GREY, MUCC, Camui Gackt, Malice Mizer, The Gazette, Luna Sea, L'arc en ciel.
~German:~
RAMMSTEIN, Oomph.
~Finnish:~
TURMION KATILOT, Ruoska.
~Polish:~
Lady Pank.
~French:~
Indochine.
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~80s Stuff:~
Duran Duran, Men At Work, Pat Benetar, Depeche Mode, New Order, Joy Division, The Smiths (the Smiths is 80s, right?). Paula Abdul, Prince, Michael Jackson.
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Classic Rock:
ELO, Elton JOHN, The Eagles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Fleetwood Mac, HEART, Rush, SuperTramp.....
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Rap / Hip-Hop:
Wu Tang, Bone Thugs, 2pac, Biggie, Cypress Hill, House of Pain, NWA, Nas, Mos Def, Busta Rhymes, Tribe Called Quest, Beastie Boys, Rhyme Asylum, The Four Owls, Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks), iLL Bill, Necro, Mister Hyde, Eminem, D12, PaceWon.... And my personal idol -- Greydon Square.
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Country Music:
Reba McEntire, Pam Tillis, Lorrie Morgan, Hank Williams Jr, Willie Nelson, JOHNNY Cash....
A little bit of Garth Brooks ("Standing Outside The Fire" still jams!)... Ummmm... First Aid Kit I guess??? I mean they're ~country-inspired~ so it kinda counts I think.
[Also, I couldn't ~STAND~ country as a kid, but later on I grew to enjoy it, Reba has songs that'll straight up make me cry]
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"Music makes me forget myself, my real position; it transports me to some other position not my own. Under the influence of music it seems to me that I feel what I do not really feel, that I understand what I do not understand, that I can do what I cannot do. I explain it by the fact that music acts like yawning, like laughter: I am not sleepy, but I yawn when I see someone yawning; there is nothing for me to laugh at, but I laugh when I hear people laughing.... Music carries me immediately and directly into the mental condition of the man who composed it. My soul merges with his and together with him I pass from one condition into another, but why this happens I don't know."
~LEO TOLSTOY
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Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j103jjl wrote
Exactly, when I listen to RAP I wanna hear some actual LYRICS, not a bunch of indecipherable gibberish!!!
Even "Speedy Rappers" like Tech N9ne or Busta Rhymes can still be ~understood~ despite the high amount of words & syllables they manage to fit into a short song. But the Mumble Rappers got me like "The hell did he say????"
Example:
Playboi Carti - Flatbed Freestyle
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Here's what ~I~ hear.
Lyrics:
Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh!
Buh.
Buh buh buh buh!
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Nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh ushy mirt day.
Pushy mella smoke dat wernk yay.
Fitty dolla smokin' ornk gey.
Unny dort yay.
Iffy need I'm smorkin'
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Effy nin I'm smorkin' ort gey.
Shippy nashin' nee-shum Mort breff.
I got shmoke all inna air.
Fut-dis-up in-yew-git-leff.
A.P. on my fuggin'-lap.
Stack-it-alright on a shop.
Yull-be-luffin' me A.O.
I got drip on A.O.L.
I got cash on A.O.L.
I'm-en-dooda Bobby Show.
Earnin'-chit -- by-by my-shelf.
I tudge-down-n shood-da gesh-tenk.
I tudge-down-N-git-my finnies-wett.
Mommy's sketti gold head.
Raleigh-round on Mo-Ped.
Mah-bish ot'ta-packa-shed.
Pot-dat benny Cap'Nin Dead.
Pishie-shock-me Eye-Kaint-Feel-Muh-Leg.
My-bee-yocky she dun-need-no-hand.
Dish-flow with the Dawn dish.
Dish-flow with the Dime-ish dish.
Dat-way-Yukon-Bombay.
In L.A. eye-smoke dat gey.
In L.A. eye-lerrim-shlett.
Them-bish-we-kish-We-Gay-You-Bet.
Eye-fut-dem-bish-en-givvit-beck.
Eye-nun-on-her she-make-me-lax.
Dat-gun-on-me eye-ken-ott-leck.
Yull-be-rotchy getty-klap.
Icky-dah-bah-yors-but-you-gett-klap.
Eye-tuk-da-lil-boi--right-off-of-deh-map.
We-kill-dem-boys--right-here-right-in-da-trap.
Eye-Lemon-Leena-here-for-a-Relapse.
Eye-Fet-Dat-Bih-He-Runnin-Runnin-Laps.
Yew-tudge-down-in-my-sea-yew-better-Tap.
Dat-Bitch-Round-Here She-Nurse-She-Got-A-Tap.
Eye-Seen-Dat-Bish-Run-Round-In-Newy-Cat.
Dat-Bish-Wit-Me-N-Now-She-Own-A-Pet.
On-Side-Side N' Wearin' A Crack.
On-A-Shy-Shy-He-Hearin'-A-Gat.
On-A-Shy-Shy-Ev'ry-Day-Wit-Black.
On-A-Shy-Shy-Ee-Yay-Yay-Yeh.
KEE-LEE-LEEN. TO-MY-LANE.
OOH-MY-PAINT.
OOH-MY-PAINT.
TO-MY-LEENE.
TO-MUH-LANE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
TO-MY-LEENE.
TO-MY-LANE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
ON-MAH-BAYNTE.
(instrumental)
BodhiK187 t1_j103tva wrote
You spent a ton of time typing that out. Way to go the extra mile!
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j104e9f wrote
And now for something GOOD.
GREYDON SQUARE -- PEACE, PEACE
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...me, I get lost in the music /
Apart from the foolishness I dodge as youth in /
A locked institution /
An animal, far from the humans /
80’s garbage tossed in a huge bin /
... the universe was art for the viewin' /
We are one now but I was scarred in the union /
Every runner up has a Starks and a Ewing /
You just play the part of the chewin'... /
...It’s like, i’m livin' a part in a movie /
This is the scene where I’m sparkin' the doobie /
With the audience arguing and booing /
Partying and mooning /
Grabbin' sexual partners of their choosing /
Why so serious? You won’t be here that long /
And since I’m not, I choose to spend my time makin' rap songs /
...maybe hit the glass bong /
Try to enlighten with music while hopin' that people latch on /
HOOK:
The bottom looks even worse when you've seen the top /
...what we blazin' here is nothing, you should see the crop /
Watch another take his place when the leader drops /
It’s only what you read about, "peace" us when see us out /
Peace peace!
Try to remain in control when you weave the route /
I don’t care if she thinks I’m ugly, music thinks i’m hot /
I don't need to be a star - I just need a spot /
That's why whenever you happen upon me man, i’m peace’n out /
Peace!
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Ask people, I’m an asshole when it comes to music /
And i’ll remind -- it comes before you like there’s nothin' to it /
...not doing what you love is foolish /
On the cusp of stupid /
Why would you not, when you love to do this? /
...my dedication you could never doubt /
...Can’t keep a girlfriend, but I can keep putting records out /
These days, i’m only focused where my flow goes /
That’s why i’m no longer nice - to women that I don’t know /
On the road so, much things tend to move in slow-mo /
But so quick - you couldn't take a photo /
Just hit em with the pound G.U. logo /
How far down you wanna go though? /
Load the ship - we now leave for Qo’nos /
That’s why our final gig was a no show /
Cuz we were doin' warp in the promo /
Tryna get as far from the ozone /
As you and your crew are - from a dope flow /
After leavin' our mark on the whole globe /
Fluffy_Little_Fox t1_j10583e wrote
https://greydonsquare.bandcamp.com/album/type-ii-the-mandelbrot-set
...most of my fans don’t even like rap /
.
#...hopefully, after me, they’ll know some nice tracks /
Z01nkDereity t1_j10g446 wrote
I didn’t mean Kdot and Drake are bad. I meant that the resurgence of rap is likely thanks to them. And yeah I agree GKMC and TPAB are incredible
Executeorder69_ t1_j11zutx wrote
No that’s what made it popular
Dracoxidos t1_j0ymbpt wrote
The same way country has. It's a music that applies to masses of people and is easy to reproduce.