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Tusken_Raiders t1_jd52d23 wrote

Yeah this is a pass. It's been a long time since I went to lolla but I feel like I went for one of the best years. '08 had Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails, RATM, Wilco, and Kanye as the headliners. Maybe I'm just getting old!

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batmangle t1_jd54zbh wrote

I mean Kanye headlining that year was a sign of things to come.

Rock is kinda dead. There are tons of small groups doing great stuff but there are few quality rock headliners these days.

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Tusken_Raiders t1_jd555me wrote

Oh for sure, I always just chalked it up to him being insanely popular at the time and a local. I was over at NIN during his show.

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finnjakefionnacake t1_jd64x68 wrote

didn't people like Snoop and Ice-T headline long before Kanye came along?

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batmangle t1_jd6go05 wrote

Sure but I feel like they fit the vibe of the festival more than Kanye does. Maybe I’m wrong though

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imdstuf t1_jd5hb5v wrote

Music where people can, you know, actually play musical instruments or know any music theory is dying.

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batmangle t1_jd5kw2z wrote

Eh, I don't really care about any of that. If the artist is performing something true to themselves and is inspired then it is okay in my books. Knowing music theory is great but sometimes it can get in the way.

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imdstuf t1_jd5nlx6 wrote

Yeah, but eventually it will be people sampling songs that sampled songs..

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batmangle t1_jd5ov0m wrote

That is nothing new. People have been covering each other since the beginning of music just the technology and aesthetic has changed.

As for the sampling you are referencing, that has been happening in hip hop for a very long time. Many people have used the same beats and samples to make songs that are almost identical or entirely different.

a boy is a gun - tyler, the creator

and

Bound 2 - Kanye West

use the same sample but are completely different songs.

Bound - Ponderosa Twins Plus One

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asstro_not t1_jd6jur5 wrote

Even what people would consider to be “classic rap” from the 80s and 90s are just jazz beats of the 60s 70s sampled onto synth decks

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finnjakefionnacake t1_jd64uzi wrote

you might be surprised to know that many hip-hop performances involve live bands

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Jwishh t1_jd9ja5t wrote

They definitely would be surprised lol, they doubt they keep up with rap

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Jwishh t1_jd9j5fd wrote

Nah, if anything it’s bouncing back. I’d say like 2005ish-2015ish was a rough decade stretch of a lot of super manufactured performers, but now we’re seeing a lot more people on stage with an instrument, usually a guitar

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imdstuf t1_jd9o3hy wrote

I guess I'm not noticing them in the pop charts. I still hear manufacturered stuff, which isn't to say I dislike it all, mainly on the pop stations.

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hotehjr t1_jd6ukxw wrote

Oh yeah my #1 concern is an artist’s knowledge of music theory

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imdstuf t1_jd8e4c5 wrote

I just meant knowing something about music, playing instruments, etc. Just pushing random buttons on a synthesizer, sampling and using autotune are fine, but if they were the only skills left music would slowly die.

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Mrfixit729 t1_jd5g1zg wrote

Tell me of the olden days grandfather…

regale us with tales of musicians who wished to fuck you as if you were an animal and would not do what you told them…

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