I've seen this guy online replying to a post about how a meta-analysis proved that men and women have equal creative potential, he claimed that since women contributed less and representate the minority in the music industry, that they are inherently less creative than men. That they haven't contributed anything at all. I mean I know gender discrimination exists and in the early to mid 1900s very few women could even have a career in music. Idk, while I personally think its incorrect idk what others think.

So what's your guys opinions on this?

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mubydram t1_jaaqzzm wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:02 AM

Gender has nothing to do with whether I like an album or not.

Igiggiinvasion t1_jaartnn wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:08 AM

On the contrary, I always felt women make music I enjoy a lot more, a lot of the time, especially once you step off the radio. Lots of innovative stuff out there

Bohica55 t1_jaarrrj wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:08 AM

It’s almost like women have been suppressed from succeeding and doing what they want for like, all of recorded history. That couldn’t be though could it?

YepJustAnAccount OP t1_jaawehk wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:42 AM

That's exactly what I think but seems like people don't acknowledge it.

Notinyourbushes t1_jabm771 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 6:43 AM

A mixture of heavy gatekeeping and limited market appeal for decades left women with less incentive to even bother with the music industry.

Where men had the option of going down whatever musical path and picking whatever style they wanted, women tended to be heavily manipulated and forced into a mold as soon as entering the industry. Record execs were more likely to finance attractive females and force them to dress and act a certain way.

It's opened up a lot in the last 30 years, but really until the 90s, why even bother having the dream if you were expected to be as pretty as you were talented and have your image completely created by men?

Carol King and Bobbie Gentry were both important figures in open up the market, as were Heart (and even Heart went through a period where all the shots were being called by execs for them). Also Linda Ronstadt, Emmylou Harris and Lucinda Williams.

The history of the Runaways and Suzi Quatro are well worth looking into if you're interested in the subject.

I'd highly suggest looking into Shelby Lynne. Country music was (probably still is) especially male dominated. She had no control over her career and she finally took the reigns herself with the release of "I am Shelby Lynne." It was the first time she wrote her own songs and picked the style of music she wanted to create and it was amazing.

sebenak t1_jaauikz wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:28 AM

Hard No.

Redstarmn t1_jaat95a wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:19 AM

My current listing is very heavy on female singers . Nightiwsh, pretty reckless, Halestorm , garbage ,Sheryl crow, finger.. Nita Strauss (guitar) arch enemy....

Abuioty to create good music has nothing to do with gender. However the ability to get commercial airplay and credit is deffence not equal

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Disastrous_Pool4163 t1_jaasq46 wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:15 AM

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Grow up

YepJustAnAccount OP t1_jaawcat wrote on February 28, 2023 at 2:42 AM

I'm on your side, I just wanted to know what people thought of this.

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chimchooree t1_jab6c7l wrote on February 28, 2023 at 4:01 AM

Joanna Newsom, Bjork, Kate Bush, Laura Marling, Nina Persson, Joni Mitchell, Beth Gibbons, Laetitia Sadier, Alison Krauss, St. Vincent and Esperanza Spalding say no.

VioletHarmon34 t1_jac51hn wrote on February 28, 2023 at 11:04 AM

not really women have influenced the industry so much

sorengray t1_jacde1w wrote on February 28, 2023 at 12:41 PM

Nope. Women are obviously equally creative and talented and inspiring in music and other art forms. They've just been held back by ignorant arrogant men like the guy online believing and espousing ignorant ideas like that.

Sister Rosetta Thorpe

Billie Holiday

Ella Fitzgerald

Carol King

Joni Mitchell

Aretha Franklin

Kate Bush

Tori Amos

Bjork

PJ Harvey

Fiona Apple

Erika Badu

Billie Eilish

To name but a few Female Musical Titans of the past 100yrs the world would not be the same without.

thisizusername t1_jab6roy wrote on February 28, 2023 at 4:05 AM

You are going to see a lot of comments on the internet that are made by those that make you question the right to free speech.

This one is so clearly disproven by even a cursory look at modern music, that I won’t even waste my time with it.