For those wondering why people don't like Rap in this subreddit

Submitted by Hungry-Cycle-1518 t3_11bfpgb in Music

Lookup "Drug Addicts" by Lil Pump

I expect a typical response to find a song in another genre of music that is unethical as well. You can do that, but vast majority of other songs in that genre will not be like that. Well, give or take 70% of the rap genre has a very similar message as "Drug Addicts" by Lil Pump is why. It has nothing to do with bias.

Imo the genre is often about drug addicts, waking up drinking a fifth in the morning, objectify women, obsessive consumerism, outrageous bragging of how much money the artist has, violence, drug usage. It is not at all wrong to dislike the genre when the message is about that. It's not at all wrong. I consider it a red flag if someone does support those items.

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gringoloco01 t1_j9xo3ru wrote

So you are judging an entire genre from one artist. I think there is a huge history of rap that is probably older than lil pump. When I think of rap, I think of Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, The Jungle Brothers, Queen Latifa, Public Enemy, Arrested Development, KRS1 and groups from the 80s and 90s. I think rap, like any other genre, has an entire history and spectrum that covers any plight or human endeavor from love and heartbreak to partying and having fun to empowerment of the human spirit.

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Dazziboi t1_j9xocgp wrote

Depends on what type of rap ur listening too. Hip Hop is probably the most diverse genre musically wise as of now, it isn’t just about drug promotion

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Loudheadphonez t1_j9xoog2 wrote

I recently scored over 100 rap albums on vinyl, part of about 500 mixed from a mini collection. They came from a "recovering" drug addict. He is pretty f'ked up to say the least. I learnt about the "left over" records through a good friend of mine, who listned to tons of hip hop (grafitti artist). He ended up living on the streets abusing grass and booze and is now socially not stable for "normal living" He luckily didnt turn to meth and other chems, like the guy I got the discs off.. so while still messed up, is in a better better place. Back to topic: I've been listening through a couple of the disks..

I'm open to almost all music, collect loads of vinyl (many Genres) and I did occasionally find some creative beats and sounds /ideas which are worth it to some point, BUT I have never heard such vile derogetory filthy lyrics in my life as I did on some of those discs.. Pointless slandering of Women, Rape, killing, tough guy rubbish. *I will try find rhe track which stood out and edit in the bottom..

I do think its safe to say that THAT phase of Rap is certainly not as predominant in todays form (I dont keep an an eye / ear open to the genre) - Point being, I would not go as far as banishing ALL Rap under the same banner.

There are some really good artists out there who live healthier and cleaner lifestyles than I do.. btw I prefer electronic music (Techno etc) so this is just my simple opinion.

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Ungeez t1_j9xs8t6 wrote

Your entire post is nothing but bias and opinion. You clearly don't know anything about Hip Hop just by your statement and clear bias. It's a pretty huge sense of entitlement to act like you're speaking for an entire subreddit haha.

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Hungry-Cycle-1518 OP t1_j9xtom4 wrote

Replying to Ungeez (#1,989,831)

It's just true. There's no study that keeps track of what percent of rap songs talk about the crude subjects I mentioned since 2010 or some odd year, but I feel very strongly about it from the songs I've heard. Just like a high percentage of country is about beer, girl, a girl leaving him, dirt road, jeans, trucks, fishing, freedom, America. Again, no study that shows what percent of country songs mention at least one of those items since 2010, but I feel very strongly about it.

I don't relate to either. I don't like music that I can't relate to in anyway.

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Alanromanii t1_j9xx5dd wrote

You can't just hate one song then straight up hate the whole genre

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getbackjoe94 t1_j9y2dl4 wrote

Drug Addicts is a response to J. Cole's 1985, where he seems to call out Lil Pump:

>I hear your music and I know that rap’s changed

>A bunch of folks would say that that’s a bad thing

>‘Cause everything’s commercial and it’s pop now

>Trap drums is the shit that’s hot now

>See, I’ve been on a quest for the next wave

>But never mind, that was just a segue

>I must say, by your songs I’m unimpressed, hey

Also Lil Pump is sober and has been off and on since before he released the song. The song is literally a response to another rapper saying his music is too cookie cutter. J. Cole insulted his rap, so he responded with another song that jokingly played into everything J. Cole was critiquing. This literally took a 2 second Google search.

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sorengray t1_j9y3boc wrote

Lots of people like hip hop in this sub.

Also, 70 percent of any genre tends to have a lot of crap in it. Name any genre and I'll name a band from it that sucks. The key is digging into the 30percent that makes a genre gold to understand why it's popular with so many people.

Hip hop isnt the main genre I listen to. But the hip hop I love, I love deeply.

Check out the real sht with smart deep lyrics and subject matter, and grooving beats... beyond money, btches, & bangin:

A Tribe Called Quest

De La Soul

Public Enemy

Jurassic 5

KRS ONE

Digable Planets

Eric B & Rakhim

Run The Jewells

...to name but a few.

Remember more than anything, hip hop is generally a newsletter from that person's world. And often time the world they are born into isn't pretty. You might have to do a little work to let them musically put you in their shoes.

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IzzyTheIceCreamFairy t1_ja0645o wrote

For those wondering why people don't like rock music in the real world

Look up Creed

That's what you're doing. Cherrypicking one terrible part of a genre and using it to represent the whole genre.

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