Submitted by Keeb-Weeb t3_yvvtdt in MechanicalKeyboards
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QWERKey-UK t1_iwgihzi wrote
Not sure what you want me to say in reply to this. Most in here will want long travel, as low profile boards have limited options for customising.
As for no keycaps... that will remove one of the main reasons people are in here... customising their boards.
Given that you give no details about anything... errr..... good luck I suppose? :) Based on the limited information you give though, I wouldn't expect a rush of anticipation. Unless you give more details, I don't see what the point of this is. A keyboard that doesn't use keycaps doesn't sound that great to me.
AkDoxx t1_iwgld4u wrote
Has to be a troll
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwgmavb wrote
it's not.
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwgms5g wrote
I could make it so that it uses keycaps though, but this keyboard would still be at about 0.25±0.1mm (design not finalized) travel plus won't be overly expensive to make. It will be relatively thin, so keycaps could be easily incorporated if I find a way to mount them.
This gives me a great idea as to an alternative design. I really appreciate your input.
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwgzxf4 wrote
I simply want to show my design further along my design phase, at least when I can show an initial render.
In it's simplest form, it would be <0.5mm travel and keycapless, in 60% form factor. It is infact a mechanical keyboard, much like the rest here and the ones I own, just reimagined. Instead of keycaps.
I'll leave it at that for now and repost about this when I'm further along the project as I agree it's mostly empty statements at this point from my part. Worry not though, it'll come. So far, this is a 1 of 1 project for myself, but who knows.
QWERKey-UK t1_iwh6dtr wrote
>would still be at about 0.25±0.1mm (design not finalized) travel
That would only really appeal to laptop type users. No mechanical keyboard enthusiast would want this. I'm not saying it would have no appeal to anyone, I just think you're hawking this in the wrong place.
Even if you could mount keycaps, they would not be MX compatible, so there would be hardly any replacement caps for it... if any at all if it's a unique design by you. You would be selling an off the shelf keyboard with no options for customisation. I really think you'd be better off pushing this in r/keyboards
UriXIV t1_iwh8mf1 wrote
I am curious about what implementation you'll come up with for keycapless design, but from my end it sounds like you're using terms interchangeably without understanding them. AFAIK, travel is related to switches but you're talking about it in the same breath as case design, so the overall idea comes across as somewhat confusing.
Good luck with the project though!
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwh903l wrote
I could incorporate easily a cherry stem fortunately.
I hope to have time to design and render a prototype this weekend to show you guys, since I don't have a solidworks license anymore I'm converting my skills to Fusion360, so far so good, mostly a matter of finding where things are.
I honestly think it belongs here as it fits the bill of a mechanical keyboard as much as any diy kit except keycaps. I think there would be appeal to users who want to reduce movement because of possible carpal tunnel or injuries or even just want to prevent anything. With the amount of travel, I think it would also appeal to gamers wanted the fastest possible reaction time with their keyboard hand.
It's vastly different in terms in construction, but at it's core it's the same. I'm focusing on first and foremost having the "as basic as possible" model prototyped first, then aiming for improvements through revisions.
I really really think this will bring something new to the keeb realm. You'll just have to wait and see for the first render.
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwh9np9 wrote
The travel from top to bottom of the switch is <0.5mm and because of the design it will end up ~0.3mm for a key press. The prototype will be a sandwich with handwiring but I hope to make a working PCB afterwards once I dial down my design. Since this switch does not mount like any mechanical keyboard switch, I'll be going with a two part plate design to hold them down which can be replaced by a PCB eventually even if socket mounted.
edit : and thanks I appreciate it. I understand that the community is quite unsure and skeptical about this, but trust me, I really think it's going to bring something new to keebs.
QWERKey-UK t1_iwhhg8o wrote
I guess we'll see when you post something explaining all this.
speedcubed t1_iwj3cep wrote
Why is this getting all these downvotes? What will this persons creation do to you? Lets just have faith in them and judge after they're actually done.
Potential-Station178 t1_iwksl68 wrote
A the keyless that only types the emoji for the flag of Spain
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwkuqvx wrote
wondering the same, but tbh, people are always reluctant to change. It's not like I'm saying I'm going to revolutionize or change the keeb hobby, I'll just be bringing something new
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwkut0i wrote
keycapless...
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwkutoj wrote
at least someone gets it
Potential-Station178 t1_iwkw272 wrote
I like the way you think Crazy Man
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwkxzoj wrote
the only thing I don't like about the design is that on any other keyboard, you feel a groove, a shape, something to tell you you're on another key and I'm hoping that prototype 1 will not feel like this.
Potential-Station178 t1_iwky9am wrote
No clue brother. I got Monkey Brain so even when the caps have no ledger I still gotta look at me wee fingies do the click clack 🧍🏻
speedcubed t1_iwl3f53 wrote
Ikr! I find this as an absolute win. We get access to a new type of keyboard, and who knows? It might be really good. I'll stay tuned for your build.
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwl7cra wrote
thanks fam, I appreciate it :)
Keeb-Weeb OP t1_iwg97p2 wrote
First I'll be designing following the traditional 60% design then it'll be easy to extrapolate. Do you guys prefer long travel? Short travel?
This "new" type of keyboard is really new, I don't want to post much details for now, but I've ordered everything I need and have been hard at work on drawing the key layout. First versions will be hand wired, but eventually will be PCB.
To get your attention, I will say that this keyboard won't have keycaps.