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LASERman71 t1_iwc0bfm wrote

Reply to comment by Hellenic94 in Space65 R3 - already dead from ESD! :( by aleksyandr

You are most likely describing different issue.

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Hellenic94 t1_iwc36ov wrote

Not really, because when I static shock my space65 it also makes a disconnect/reconnect noise. Esd must be working well enough not to fry the pcb but the leds always go out and need replacement. I wouldnt be surprised if my pcb dies on me.

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LASERman71 t1_iwc5m6v wrote

Because you have ONE similar aspect with yours you think you can decide this is exactly the same scenario? Wrong!

You can find (in this subreddit) multiple examples of various incidents with totally different board / maker and the same "disconnect/reconnect noise".

It does NOT make it "exact same issue".

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Hellenic94 t1_iwc6pfq wrote

Ofcourse I can, iv seen MANY space65 boards have static shock and esd issues including my own. ESD works until it doesnt and in OPs case ESD failed to prevent damage. Go on their discord server and simply search static shock theres someone asking for help bi-weekly. I havent faced any issues with Geon, Gok, Bitmap, Aeboards, Jackystudios, Owlabs, Smith n Rune pcbs and im active in those servers. Does static shock affect anything electronic on this earth? Absolutely.

Esd is a weak point for space65.

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LASERman71 t1_iwc8zpr wrote

>ESD works until it doesnt

This applies to... every single electronic device on the planet :)

And I read about ESD damage on pretty much all Discord keeb channels...

I would rather blame "keeb build stream gurus" for showing you to handle PCBs w/o any ESD precautions.... consequences do not have to show up immediately. 3 decades of electronics repairs would teach you that.

Of course I will not dismiss the possibility that this line of boards may be more venerable, but this requires professional examination not just your impressions.

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Hellenic94 t1_iwcb9kc wrote

You dont need professional examination or 3 decades of electronics repairs to see if one board has more esd/static shock issues than another. Like I said, owners of space65 are more vocal about these problems than any other channel iv been in and its not by chance.

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LASERman71 t1_iwchaqq wrote

>You dont need professional examination... to see if one board has more esd/static shock issues

You still don't see the difference between number of occurrences and the actual cause of them.

>owners of space65 are more vocal about these problems...

Obviously more people will whine about Space65 going wrong than... Razor - here lies your unprofessional perception of "more"

Like I said - this is not to dismiss the possibility this PCB is more vulnerable but this not mean it is flawed by wrong design.

My final argument is that 99% of you handle PCBs without any ESD precautions potentially compromising ESD protection and the consequences may not be immediate.

In professional approach this alone disqualifies any afterward claim against the product / maker.

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Hellenic94 t1_iwcicau wrote

You can argue all you want. If product A has more complaints about X than product B has about X then product A has a bigger X problem. People will always leave reviews or comments when they are facing issues with a purchase. They arent on the floor rubbing themselves on a carpet while building a board man. Why would people whine less for Razor though? How many times do you go on on Amazon and compare 2 items only to choose the one with the least amount of reported problems, even though both seem to have it?

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LASERman71 t1_iwcnu69 wrote

>They arent on the floor rubbing themselves on a carpet while building a board man.

They not assembling them correctly either. Please educate yourself with any basic electronic assembly good practice guidelines and it will surely include strong wording about ESD precautions way above not rubbing on the carpet.

The rest are questionably acquired statistics.

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RaptorJesusLOL t1_iwc6nt7 wrote

I hope they see this and give you a free defective keyboard bro

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