Submitted by febreeeeeze t3_z84fgh in MechanicalKeyboards
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prik_nam_pla t1_iy9oau9 wrote
Plot twist: Yours is top right.
Bandit_FTW t1_iy9s7jh wrote
You didn’t get bored, you just turned into a chad
NoOne-NBA- t1_iy9v1ej wrote
I'm in the opposite boat.
I'm training someone today, so I had to dig out the Logitech because there no way in hell they'd be able to use my custom layout.
OMG, what a frustrating experience that is.
I can't tell you how many botched "shortcuts" I've had to retype today.
the_rodent_incident t1_iy9xtqg wrote
You bought a gun to a knife fight.
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iya6w7b wrote
5 awards in 22 mins! Wow!
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iya6zjb wrote
You mean shortcuts that don’t work on the logitech or shortcuts that the trainee made?
Also, what layout do you use normally?
BertMacklenF8I t1_iya731u wrote
I’m about to get an All White one of these with Gatereon Blacks, a polycarb switch plate, Aura V2 Caps, E-White Top Frame and Knob, and Ghost White Cable….If it was for work I’d go with a nicer Cap Set but it’s for gaming….
AndrejPatak t1_iyaa30k wrote
They probably meant the custom OS shortcuts that match their custom layout didn't fit the logitechs boring, standard layout.
Bikouchu t1_iyad3sh wrote
Nah fam won't lie. It's just box navies that's all.
blazin_paddles t1_iyaewcz wrote
I just got mine in the mail yesterday. Y'all weren't kidding about how bad the stock, lubed stabs feel. It's embarrassing why don't they just not put any lube on them rather than make me have to take the whole board apart just to get backspace not to stick. Love everything else about it though.
TheNotoriousWD t1_iyaeyvl wrote
Lol I have been doing this with my Nuphy 75 the last few weeks
febreeeeeze OP t1_iyagvnt wrote
oil kings otw
Geralt_Bialy_Wilk t1_iyaj282 wrote
Oh, I dont have a keyboard at my office desk. Whenever I come in (working mostly remotely), I bring my KBD67lite with BT. Its light, so I just put it in the carrying case and throw into my backpack. Using L&F bobas u4t and MT3 keycaps (high profile sculped caps gang reporting in!).
My coworkers don't mind, but I also have all the foam and silicone in that thing and try not to bash it like a madlad. Some people get interested in it as well!
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyaklff wrote
Shortcuts that I've become accustomed to on my programmables, that don't work on a standard keyboard, like having arrows on IJKL, using the Pipe key for Backspace, and using the right alphas for a numpad.
As far as the layout goes, this is it.
ballinskary t1_iyamuzj wrote
Ah, yes, the best switch for people who hate their coworkers.
paradoxally t1_iyapi95 wrote
Goated switches tbh. Reds are too light for me.
febreeeeeze OP t1_iyaxl9w wrote
i never realized how many accidental key presses i make with reds until i played around on my friend‘s keyboard, it was a night and day difference with typing accuracy.
febreeeeeze OP t1_iyay0tu wrote
thanks! personally i love lenovo’s membrane keyboards so when i saw one in the office i had to take it to my desk, haha
iGematriA t1_iyay3nx wrote
Nice! I've got a gmmk pro on the way and going to put my Oil king set in it. Enjoy, they're awesome
DoukyBooty t1_iyb3dtn wrote
Love the color! I just can't get use to their ASA profile caps.
JDBCool t1_iyb3fv3 wrote
What am I looking at here....
Seriously. I want to see the "logic" of this layout.
As far as I can tell, the black right hand side has what you've said, a numb pad, but what's up with the split backspace. Is it like "one is delete if I hold fn"?
febreeeeeze OP t1_iyb4shd wrote
coming from using KAT 9009’s, i really like the ASA profile. it might be because they’re both a mix of OEM and SA, but i personally found it easy to switch between them
grantus1337 t1_iyb5eow wrote
Lol how do you get work done on that? I assume you don’t work in finance.
Ennui2 t1_iyb752w wrote
This is amazing. Love the customization
Happydenial t1_iyb87zd wrote
Typing on those is like an unsatisfying trampoline for your fingers
NoOne-NBA- t1_iybimfu wrote
It's all about minimizing hand movements.
The black keys act as alphas with no layer keys pressed.
They act as an arrow cluster on IJKL, with Backspace, Delete, Pg Up and Pg Dn around them, when the Capslock or black Fn key are held.
They act as a normal numpad, momentarily when the left 1.5u is held, or the numpad layer toggles in/out with the white Fn key, allowing me to bump it with my right thumb, then enter whatever I need to, like when I need to use the calculator.
Having all those different things centered on the "K" key lets me switch from alphas, to arrows, to numpad completely on the fly, depending on what I do with my left thumb and pinky.
After spending so much time not having to move my hands, using the Logitech today was horrible.
I realize it's a first world problem, but I was having to move my hand ALL THE WAY OVER to the dedicated numpad and arrows again today.
NoOne-NBA- t1_iybj1vb wrote
I do graphics, so I'm used to heavy key-chording.
Being able to switch from numbers to alphas to arrows and back, without moving your hand at all, is really nice.
I did a very intense study of exactly how I was using a keyboard in my work environment, then compacted that keyboard into a 60% footprint, designed for exactly how I work.
I'm working on the sister board to this, for home use.
That one's going to be a bit different because I don't game at work.
I'm putting that one into a 60% case as well, but will be using one without HHKB blockers.
JDBCool t1_iybkwte wrote
>after spending so much time not having to move my hands.... ALL THE WAY OVER to the dedicated numpad.
Ah hahah..... this sounds very familiar..... from a few accountants I know.... they're all desperately finding southpaws
And yeah, having things centered around "K" does sound smart. Far away from most "standard essential" shortcuts. Something I might consider for a future board.
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyblngz wrote
I am actually a southpaw myself.
That's the primary reason the numpad is at the forefront of all my designs.
I use it constantly for numeric entry, when doing graphics at work.
At night, I use it for gaming because I hold the mouse in my left hand, making the numpad/arrow/nav cluster perfect for button entry.
Panasonicy0uth t1_iybnk7v wrote
I work in finance and have gotten away with using a 60% for most of my career. Git good, scrub.
Ahegao_Double_Peace t1_iybpqhj wrote
Is that print screen button position by default, or did you have to reprogram it via VIA/QMK from Home, etc?? I'm interested in 75% keyboards with a dedicated print screen button.
Tokena t1_iybq0e3 wrote
I just finished modding two GMMK2's. They had factory lubed stabs but were still pretty bad.
newfor_2022 t1_iybsz3m wrote
why settle when you can have one for your home, one for your office.
astro143 t1_iybtcng wrote
I just built a board for work with a Keychron V6 and Durock Daybreak silent linears. Absolute joy to type on, but I wish I had some accent color keycaps to make it look special, the WoB set I got looks great, but it looks like the generic keyboard I already used at work.
PianoConcertoNo2 t1_iybtoqo wrote
💯.
It will be a cold day in hell before I spend a full day using the provided membrane based keyboard.
Proud-Bowl7896 t1_iybvtid wrote
I love this, I have the same keyboard just with different key caps and now I think I need a blackout setup. That gold knob is amazing too
Matasa89 t1_iybxdpw wrote
Lol all of us just use VIA.
febreeeeeze OP t1_iybxs8l wrote
the print screen key here is the default location. of course, you can always change it to anything else if you’d like
ionizzatore t1_iyc1oav wrote
I've seen film/gaskets on sale online but I never understood the advantages.
What do they do to the switch?
ButterBrioche t1_iyc2qdd wrote
Looks cool!
PixelAgent007 t1_iyc3foa wrote
keybored
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SoundDrill t1_iyc4f7z wrote
Doesn't USB allow multiple devices? Have them connect both keyboards and they will get intimidated into using the normal looking Logitech one.
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iyc6qs1 wrote
Yeah, probably. I thought the boring layouts were meant to be good for shortcuts though?
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iyc73dd wrote
Oh, so you mean your custom shortcuts that don’t work on the logitech layout? That board looks epic, and functional.
Dumbass-Redditor t1_iyc7yvu wrote
I like oil kings, but black inks are heaven for me. Something about the oil king sound profile that throws me off
utdconsq t1_iyc9bzl wrote
In theory, reduces switch wobble and changes switch sound. For some switches, they're a waste of time, others a pleasant change. For my part, they're never worth quite the effort of installing them as well as all the lubing etc. The lube itself generally does more I find.
AndrejPatak t1_iyc9lk1 wrote
I think that the history of standard layout goes so far back that I couldn't answer that even with 10 hours of research.
parkotron t1_iycavt1 wrote
Why not plug in both?
Teal-Fox t1_iyccyek wrote
I really like their membranes too, but I have a nasty habit of typing too hard and utterly destroying shit keyboards.
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My test of a solid keyboard is if I can use it for work without the keys falling off after a few months lmao
ChildhoodFragrant322 t1_iycerw0 wrote
I allways bring mine 😁 Only one at the office that uses QWERTY (I live in belgium - AZERTY is king here ffs)
Euphoric_Standard724 t1_iycfr53 wrote
That's a nice keyboard I like the jades tho pandas too
Chevy_Monsenhor t1_iycgfm9 wrote
I have the same keycap set on my VN96!
Un111KnoWn t1_iycgkpo wrote
what is right alpha?
markcocjin t1_iyckdjb wrote
I mean, sure it doesn't feel as good as the quality ones. And the loose clackey sound annoyed some people. But mech keyboards generally feel better for the daily grind at work.
Manueljlin t1_iycod0k wrote
that one cursed outemu blue mod is better :D
ballinskary t1_iycu2x5 wrote
Never messed Otemu blues. What's the mod?
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QuickbuyingGf t1_iycvmdd wrote
I presume u-p, j-;, m-enter
lebocajb t1_iycx64a wrote
Yeah I wasn’t happy to learn that they openly admit on their website that there’s a defect in their stabilizer lubing process and their solution for that is to have me, the customer, fully disassemble and repair their product as the first thing after unboxing it
solracarevir t1_iycydb0 wrote
I have been in this shithole called hobby for over 5 years, and let me tell you:
I Fear no Layout, But that thing.... Scares me.
solracarevir t1_iycylg9 wrote
I only use custom keyboards at work. I'm Known for my colorful and weird keyboards.
I like to rotate my collection every few days so my WPM stays low all the time lol
FinishingDutch t1_iyczje7 wrote
Honestly, I'm amazed people can actually type on membrane keyboards, much less type on them all day.
I'm a professional writer. A good keyboard enhances my productivity. It's not a luxury, it's a necessity. Hence why I'm using a custom built ErgoDox at work with a nice 1976 keycap set on it. I upgraded to that from a KBP V60.
The keyboard was quite the crowd pleaser when it first used it there. Few people outside this hobby have seen anything besides a regular keyboard :D
I also like the obscure nature of it and all the blank keys. It means nobody ever steals my keyboard since nobody else can type on my unique layout.
Garland_Key t1_iyd0h5e wrote
What keycap set is that?
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyd2y5b wrote
That does work, and I did have both plugged in.
Physically swapping the keyboards out, every time we swapped seats, would have been more distracting, than helpful.
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyd3ln7 wrote
Your reaction is a little less profane than my boss' reaction, when he saw it, and considerably less entertaining.
He was walking into my office, talking about a customer's requests, and suddenly just froze, mid-sentence, got this weird look on his face, and asked me, "WTF kind of keyboard is THAT!", really loudly.
NotClever t1_iyd3y4x wrote
I keep around a wireless Logitech and just connect it alongside my normal keyboard for things like this (usually just for when IT needs to do something on my computer).
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyd4bso wrote
Correct.
It is the alpha characters on the right side of the keyboard.
In the picture, it's the block of black keycaps, shaped like a normal numpad.
NotClever t1_iyd51w0 wrote
What are those on the D and K keys? I assume it's something you added as a tactile aid to locating your fingers, like home row bumps, but I'm curious what exactly you used.
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyd6ttu wrote
This layout is much more natural than most smaller orthos.
There's very little to "learn", or "remember" on my layout, even for someone coming straight from a non-programmable 100% board.
With no modifiers in play, everything is right where you'd expect it, on a standard staggered 65% board, except that the ? key is moved over one key to the right, piggy-backed on top of the Right Shift key.
The only things you need to learn/remember are the two layer modifiers.
Black Fn is exactly like moving your right hand to the arrow keys, except it adds extra keys around the arrows.
That keeps you from having to "move your hand" yet again, to do things like delete the text you just selected.
The left blank 1.5 key next to that is exactly like moving your hand to the numpad on an 1800 or 100%, down to having the vertical 2u NumEnter.
SoundDrill t1_iyd8o2u wrote
Oh ok..
I have an idea which is a bit excessive. You mod both your keyboard and the logitech with type c with a breakout board and hide that inside. One USB C cable and everyone's happy
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyd94yr wrote
They are rubber cabinet bumpers I got off Amazon, used as properly located Mac homing dots.
Until they caved to PC convention, with the release of the original iMac, Apple had their indexing nibs on D and K, so I have kept adding my own, after they switched.
Indexing with the same fingers, everywhere, makes much more sense to me than indexing the alphas with my pointer fingers, and the numpad with my middle finger.
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iyd9abf wrote
Probably. No point trying, at this point really. But op replied and said it was his custom board shortcuts that didn’t work
NoOne-NBA- t1_iyda9ha wrote
The Logitech is already wireless, so it's not a connectivity issue, it's about workflow.
If I am constantly swapping keyboards, every time we switch seats, it distracts from what really needs to be learned.
The only reason this is even an issue this week is because I am training someone to cover for me when I'm gone.
When I'm actually gone, I'll just leave the Logitech for them.
Swizzel-Stixx t1_iydahk3 wrote
Lol, yeah that would be funny. He probably hadn’t been initiated though, which most of us here have. When you said custom I thought you meant alice or something. But this does actually look really useful, with the explanation you gave. Otherwise it might just look like mismatched keycaps…
solracarevir t1_iyditvp wrote
I retract myself. Looking at it carefully I kinda agree with you. Is just the numpad in the middle threw me off. It really is not very different from a Preonic
Illustrious-Scar-526 t1_iydk5oo wrote
Might delete later
TallmanMike t1_iye8ldm wrote
Ah, I see you also paid the ten dollars for the gold knob bling.
thorcik t1_iyedh4w wrote
My colleague wanted to check something on my work PC today. Tried to type on my Redox, couldn't find the backspace, surrendered.
thorcik t1_iyeduk9 wrote
I'm IT, keep your Logitech away :D
FinishingDutch t1_iyei6jk wrote
Yeah, I can imagine :D I put that one in a pretty logical place, even though it's not labelled: top right key, where it would be on a normal board. Since that's what I'm used to.
I've explained the whole 'weird keyboard thing' to colleagues. It's a completely different way of thinking about keyboards. You don't adapt your fingers to where the keys are, you adapt the keys to where you want them and where your fingers "expect" them to be.
I also set it up to do some wacky things compared to normal boards. For example, I use a work iMac and don't need the F-keys. So those aren't on the board. I also never use caps lock. So I didn't program that either. There ARE however two backspaces, two spacebars, but only a left pinky shift key, since I never use my right pinky for shift anyway. So that's where I put enter.
The end result is a board that tends to type pretty much like a normal board with very little fat, and some extra handy keys that I use often. When you type a LOT like I do, anything that helps productivity is pretty welcome.
amuro_rei t1_iyf9j0l wrote
I agree. I broke two Logitech and one Dell sh!tty keyboard the company gave me and after broke them had the IT department to source me the southpaw mechanical keyboard as part of OHS policy. 😂
amuro_rei t1_iyf9o5o wrote
put the rubber ring that will dampen the sound.
however if your keychron supports the hotswap get the silent red switch from AliX.
amuro_rei t1_iyf9wbw wrote
I'm touch typist so wouldn't bother me. 😉
amuro_rei t1_iyfa29z wrote
my mechanical keyboard is boring black body with boring(?) beige keycaps aka IBM keycaps. only weird part is this is southpaw keyboard where numpad and cursor keys are all moved to the left. 😂
febreeeeeze OP t1_iy9o944 wrote