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1-more t1_itmlh3q wrote

Reply to comment by Varpie in PSA: Please stop calling these "Irish" sublegends. They are not Irish. by DiplomacyPunIn10Did

To be fair it takes some remembering to know which uses ø vs ö for “oe” and it’s complicated by œ being used in old Norse and æ being used in a bunch of them currently. Easy to remember that ø isn’t used outside of (geographically bounded) Scandinavia but hard to remember where specifically it is used within there.

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flecom t1_itojuyx wrote

A Møøse once bit my sister...

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cglavan83 t1_itoklfx wrote

Those responsible for writing the comments have been sacked.

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sjuswede t1_itow26y wrote

If you by "geographically bounded Scandinavia" mean the Scandinavian peninsula, your rule of thumb is incorrect.

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1-more t1_itq1a5z wrote

I mean that there are Southern Sámi (Uralic language) speakers within Sweden and Norway using ø as welll as the Swedish, Norwegian, and Faroese speakers using ø. The Southern Sámi speakers are within Scandinavia, but their language isn’t related to any Indo-European language (or we haven’t found a common ancestor yet). So you could call it a Scandinavian language in that it is located entirely within Scandinavia. But if you use Scandinavian to mean a language that is “northern Germanic and related to Faroese, Swedish, Danish, both Norwegians, etc” then that would be wrong.

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sjuswede t1_itqcfvr wrote

You will find that Sami does not use ø, and nor does Swedish. The only languages that do are Danish and Norwegian, and Føroyskt mál which is most definitely not connected geographically to anything Scandinavian.

Denmark and the Faroe islands are not in the Scandinavian peninsula. Only Norway is, of the countries with languages which use ø.

Scandinavian, as language, in modern times encompasses Norwegian, Danish, Swedish and Icelandic, with Føroysk as a minor language. Three of those use ø, meaning it is more correct (though still incorrect) to speak of them as using ø.

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1-more t1_itqcn9l wrote

Omg I’m a buffoon, I meant ö the entire time like a CHUMP. sorry I got gm that switched.

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that-short-girl t1_itpipj1 wrote

Denmark isn’t in Scandinavia though and they use ø rather than ö

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1-more t1_itq1m93 wrote

Huh yeah guess you can’t really count it as in there since it’s over the water next to Germany. I know it’s somewhat intelligible with Swedish is all. I am playing fast and loose with the definitions here to be charitable to the original commenter.

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