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LordG20 t1_j8aibsq wrote

Reply to comment by SaifurCloudstrife in How Christian Nationalists Usurped Maine's GOP by iknowyourded

Big government, Global Free trade, warmongers and screw the working Americans.... Not a dimes worth of difference between an elected Republican and an elected Dem.

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psilosophist t1_j8bav6j wrote

None of the things you’re describing are remotely “left wing” though. You’re describing symptoms of unfettered capitalism, which is the very thing left wing movements have been fighting against all over the world for a long time now.

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LordG20 t1_j8bhudo wrote

I don't know any elected Dems against globalism, most are profiting from it. In my experience the only time Dems are against war is when there is a draft or Republican in the white house. Even then all they do is make a bunch of noise, they don't do anything that would end it. I can't think of three things elected Dems have done to make working Americans better off financially.

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psilosophist t1_j8bsy5h wrote

I wasn’t talking about Democrats, since they’re not leftists.

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TarantinoFan23 t1_j8gn7yh wrote

Seriously! When was the last time we got a national park? Did anything to protect labor? Cared about a baby? Not in a while. The left is sadly not even in the picture.

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20thMaine t1_j8nu7mx wrote

Someone’s gets it: “both sides” certainly aren’t the same, but they’re both basically center<->right on the classical political spectrum

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SaifurCloudstrife t1_j8ak0kv wrote

My thing is that both sides refuse to work together because of some stupid tribalist bullshit. The fact that I had to fight as hard as I and other gay people did for the right to marry the man I love, not have to worry about my housing or employment and more because of the GOP constant homophobia says a lot.

There's a lot of good points that the GOP has, but the extreme over-abundance of hyper-religiousity is a major problem for me.

As far as war mongering, that is a problem on both sides of the aisle state and federal. Maybe you can help me understand the problem with free trade. As far as screwing working Americans, I'm seeing the Left trying to get minimum wage to a living wage, where it was always meant to be. Maybe not a comfortable living wage, but one where you could live with it. That's not a bad thing.

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hike_me t1_j8e4d4v wrote

Restricting free trade doesn’t seem very small government

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TarantinoFan23 t1_j8gnhl8 wrote

That's an extremely complicated subject. One of many that are so hard to grasp, that people don't understand how little they grasp of it.

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hike_me t1_j8gtmuv wrote

Sure it’s a complicated subject but it’s not a big reach to come to the conclusion that people crying for both “small government” and restrictions on free trade at the same time are kind of hypocrites — restricting free trade is inherently a “big government” power.

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