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auraphauna t1_j8jx4px wrote

Maine/Vermont are so white that the largest minority is half-white.

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Evening_Pension5388 t1_j8kyidw wrote

Where does it say half-white? Not every mixed person is also white.

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auraphauna t1_j8kyljr wrote

Well you see, I simplified the nuances to make a joke.

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Evening_Pension5388 t1_j8kzen9 wrote

Do better

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Brielle2 t1_j8jnlrg wrote

Are Whites really a minority in New Mexico and California?

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mymaineaccount46 t1_j8jwjil wrote

It probably depends on the data. If you are counting Hispanic whites with non Hispanic whites together they probably are not the minority. So this is probably separating out Hispanic whites from non Hispanic whites creating that distinction.

Hispanic as a category in the US is kinda weird. It's not a separate race category and has multiple races inside it (Hispanic whites, afro Hispanic.) It's more a cultural category but gets thrown into racial statistics all the time.

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ceciliquy t1_j8ln1h9 wrote

As someone who’s lived most of their life in Los Angeles before moving to Maine, I can say that it’s still surprising how often I think “wow. there are a lot of white people here”. Definitely an odd thought when thinking critically on it, but shows just how used to being in a very racially diverse state can color your perception.

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gadadhoon t1_j8nqccc wrote

There's about five black people within half an hour of where my parents live in Maine. It's just.... dang. Very white.

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Aggressive-Team-3670 t1_j8of9xu wrote

I used to live in mass how they treat white people in general know is rascist as fuck let's see how this ends but I would think at this point white and Hispanic close in mass

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Rico_Rebelde t1_j8jwo3k wrote

I'm guessing its slightly flawed since white and hispanic aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Many hispanic people are white or can pass as white which could be the same thing or noot depending on who you ask.

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FortBlocks t1_j8k22cb wrote

Same with Arab, Caucasian is the proper term since white is a tone

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TGhost21 t1_j8kf0st wrote

It's not that they "can pass as white". They ARE white. You know that there are white people all over Central and South America, right? Hispanic is not a race, it's an ethnic group. 🙄

https://i.redd.it/va01bs7g3aia1.gif

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Rambling_Puppet t1_j8m7oy0 wrote

Not really. Hispanics are a mix of Natives and Spaniards. Not white. There are black hispanics, too, but I don't see you grouping the hispanics with the Blacks.

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TGhost21 t1_j8mt4wc wrote

Excerpt from https://www.census.gov/topics/population/hispanic-origin/about.html below:

"U.S. federal government agencies must adhere to standards issued by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), which specify that race and Hispanic origin (also known as ethnicity) are two separate and distinct concepts. These standards generally reflect a social definition of race and ethnicity recognized in this country, and they do not conform to any biological, anthropological, or genetic criteria. The standards include two minimum categories for data on ethnicity: "Hispanic or Latino" and "Not Hispanic or Latino." Persons who report themselves as Hispanic can be of any race and are identified as such in our data tables. The following sources provide population data on Hispanic origin and race:

Population estimates by age, sex, race, and Hispanic origin are produced annually for the nation, states, and counties. Historical data are also provided in the Archive Files. Population projections out to 2060 are provided by race and Hispanic origin for the nation. The Current Population Survey (CPS) provides national-level data on the social, economic, and demographic characteristics of selected race groups, both current and past. Tables on the Hispanic population in the United States are also available, both current and past. The American Community Survey (ACS) provides sample data from the 1-year, 3-year, and 5-year estimates based on population size. Selected Population Profiles enable you to select characteristics by Race or Ethnic Groups (Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, etc.) and by Country of Birth. The 2010 Census brief Overview of Race and Hispanic Origin describes these concepts and also provides information on how the race categories used in the 2010 Census were defined."

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Rambling_Puppet t1_j8qevhf wrote

I don't give af what the inaccurate, racist, corrupt U.S. federal government says. The U.S. government used to attempt to classigy Asian's as being White. As well as all middle - easterners, just to make the country appear more White. And even in Texas, police mark some black people - black as charcoal, and a bunch of dark hispanics - as 'White', to avoid getting in trouble for racial profiling.

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FOH with that bullshit.

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TGhost21 t1_j8qkl8q wrote

Your intention is noble, but your ways are mistaken.

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TimothyOilypants t1_j8k1qx7 wrote

"...can pass as white..." may be the craziest ignorant shit I've read all day.

Congrats! Your Reddit kick in the balls is in the mail!

This is why including "white" in any conversation about race is fucking stupid and inherently racist to anyone not "white"...

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DimLug t1_j8jnvri wrote

I can believe New Mexico. California has me wondering though.

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Dixon_hass_42 t1_j8kivp2 wrote

The parts of California I’ve been too, I was definitely a minority.

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CoconutSands t1_j8li8gk wrote

It's been a long time since I lived there. But it's basically there is no majority there so everybody is under the 50% threshold.

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BacteriaandKoral t1_j8kp0fn wrote

As someone from California I would say it depends on North versus Southern California. But I lived in LA and was almost always one of the only white people at work. It was also pretty common for me to hear "jokes" about white people.

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Notmystationbro t1_j8jug0h wrote

Yea considering how close it is to the border it’s not a shocking statistic. Also take into the consideration how big families Hispanics have

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iwontrun t1_j8lf0z4 wrote

If it wasn't for Mormons and 10 kids each, we would be here in Utah too

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789JUNIPER t1_j8li736 wrote

Yes, in Ca, white people are in the minority. It has been this way for awhile now.

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BigE1263 t1_j8k9w63 wrote

Considering the big move from CA to TX, yes

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Mainah888 t1_j8jk8lu wrote

Mixed what?

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New-Work-139 OP t1_j8jkzjq wrote

Mixed race. It’s a legitimate term for a person who identifies racially as multiple races. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/omb/fedreg_race-ethnicity

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Mainah888 t1_j8jm2a1 wrote

I'm aware, but what races?

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justlikethewwdove t1_j8k69tj wrote

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/state-by-state/maine-population-change-between-census-decade.html

There's no elegant breakdown of the data but the best way to get a sense of it is by choosing the "[race] in combination" drop down at the Census link above for each race/ethnicity. The two largest non-white ones reported with others are Native at almost 2% and Black at about 1%. Total mixed is 4.7% and white in combo is 4.6% which means the vast majority of mixed are white and something else -- makes sense given Northern New England has been the whitest part of the country for a very long time.

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meowmix778 t1_j8jph2v wrote

More than two.

I'm half white and half puerto rican. I'm mixed. My best friend is half black and half vietnamese. He is mixed.

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fridaycat t1_j8k7oco wrote

Puerto Rican is not a race. It is an ethnicity.

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Mainah888 t1_j8jss69 wrote

No shit. Jesus.

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sharklar t1_j8kgh5o wrote

Ouch , don't let em hate . I get what you're saying. And honestly people from the Caribbean and all of Central and South America are perhaps the most mixed because of Europeans taking what they wanted.

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Simon_Jester88 t1_j8ke0gd wrote

French-Canadians

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Mainah888 t1_j8kfeeu wrote

Serious answer. If you looked at my family genealogy and adjacent, you'd see that to be true.

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ethan52695 t1_j8jx6sl wrote

If I had to guess it’s something to do with the fact that Vermont and Maine are the whitest states in the U.S, so I would assume that’s it’s probably people who are white and some other race. I know I grew up near Indian island and I’m sure all of those people would all identify as mixed race even though the vast majority are white passing (not that I’m saying there is anything wrong with being white passing and identifying as another race).

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RisinSon t1_j8ky610 wrote

I'm mixed. Half white. Definitely felt like a minority when I first moved here in 2011.

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New-Work-139 OP t1_j8kyavl wrote

If it makes you feel better according to the map you are the majority of the minority

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RisinSon t1_j8uhixs wrote

🤣

I think one of us interpreted the map wrong. Not that it matters. But biggest minority meaning the most minor. Or largest group of the minorities. I read it as the rarest race is mixed.

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New-Work-139 OP t1_j8ujx7t wrote

Mixed race is the most common race in Maine that’s not white, according to the map

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RisinSon t1_j8umqr8 wrote

Oic. You are right. But i think the map could be wrong. It doesn't make much of a difference. We're all about 2%..lol. According to 2021 census it's Hispanic.

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forumadmin1996 t1_j8lbjta wrote

The whole world needs to have a twenty year orgy till we are all the same. Sex in the streets.

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New-Work-139 OP t1_j8lc57f wrote

That’s not how reproduction works lol, gonna take a lot more time than 20 years

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8k3jod wrote

Mixed? Unless it's white and another race, I don't believe this map at all.

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Terrible-Marketing82 t1_j8klovp wrote

"Unless this confirms the beliefs I already had, its wrong."

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Majiji45 t1_j8kqwsc wrote

More like “unless this means what it clearly says, I don’t believe it”

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8l6qsv wrote

And where does it say "white/X race" or "white/Y race" on this map? Do tell me!

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DidDunMegasploded t1_j8l6nk4 wrote

Thanks for your daily asshat quota fulfillment. Feel free to stop by the office tomorrow. We'll have it reset for you by then!

No shame in stating my harmless opinion.

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totalrefan t1_j8kodv9 wrote

Wouldn't it be weird if "half-white" was separate from other mixed races?

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