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goonmaster696969 t1_ja9uyad wrote

that subsidy has a household income limit of 80k CAD, or 58k USD. for a household income of 70k CAD on a family of four its still around 500 dollars a month depending on the ages and assuming 5 days a week.

calculator here

maine's subsidy program has an income limit of 84k usd for a family of 4 according to this. without knowing how much op makes or the maine rates, it might not be that much better

in this pdf it describes the number of people benefitting from the program:

>Through the Parent Subsidy, roughly 3,500 families with an annual income of less than $80,000 have better access to quality early learning and childcare.

that seems shockingly low. i would bet the number of people benefitting from the maine program is at least 4 times that. can't really find this info and i'm bored of reading about it now. safe to say you are heavily misrepresenting that program. with such a low income cap there's no way it "pays for itself" by incentivizing workforce participation. it only would benefit single parent households or students. two parents working full time at new brunswick's minimum wage would place them pretty close to the income cap

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SobeysBags t1_jaagxyt wrote

Well that's because you're looking at the old provincial parent subsidy program, which is unrelated. You seemed to have gone down a rabbit hole. The 10$ a day childcare was just instituted a year ago roughly with the federal govt and will be fully fledged over the next 5 years with half a billion invested. This will result in the average daily cost for childcare being 10$ per family by the end, but savings for families are already being seen. There are no income limits currently and all can access, regardless of income. This is modelled after Quebec which has had this for decades, and is being rolled out in all of the other provinces and territories over the next 5 years. Quebec found they did not have to increase taxes to fund the program as they garnered more tax income from the increased participation in the workforce by parents. This has been well documented.

Every province and territory has a deal with the feds now for 10$ a day childcare for all families: feel free to peruse:

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6400123

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/nb-signs-daycare-deal-1.6283596

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/federal-provincial-agreement-605-child-care-funding-1.6100441

https://globalnews.ca/news/9257368/ontario-child-care-program-10-a-day/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/more-10-a-day-child-care-spaces-1.6636946

https://globalnews.ca/news/8101331/manitoba-child-care-federal-plan-reaction/

Nevertheless, participation is early but heavy. My own sister who lives in Alberta, and her family make great money around $200,000 a year. Her childcare costs already went down from $2000 a month to $500 with two kids. She could go back to working full time. Hell, some provinces like Ontario are actually giving retroactive rebates for parents who paid more before the program started. Overall while the program is young it outstrips the weakly funded Maine subsidy program by leaps and bounds already. Even the most conservative provinces in Canada saw the economic value of the program, and early stats show economic benefit.

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