I, too saw the Musk satellite stream. I’m concerned we will one day look up and see advertising instead of points of light.

Submitted by k_mainer t3_11440l7 in Maine

International space law contains no limitations for national laws' considering satellites as objects of property rights, provided that such national laws themselves can impose specific rules and limitations, including preliminary approval of the transfer of satellite by a competent national authority. December 2019 via Google

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alpha417 t1_j8u8cr6 wrote

...ok?

is this a ChatGPT post?

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Yourbubblestink t1_j8ubopz wrote

LOL 😂 it already is an ad! Everyone knows that it is starlink. That’s the advertisement, the light are unnecessary.

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TheMrGUnit t1_j8ucccv wrote

Okay, so you saw 52 satellites.

But there's over 3500 Starlink sats in orbit right now. How often do you see those?

Starlink birds are only easily visible right after they are launched, while the orbit is still being raised. Once they reach their operational orbit, not only are they much further away, but the sun shield is in position to almost completely eliminate them from view. You would only possibly see them at certain times during twilight, and even then only faintly.

Calm down.

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dead-inside69 t1_j8ud7kd wrote

This is some “Sputnik is reading our minds” level lunacy lmao

Nobody is going to advertise in the sky even if it were magically technologically feasible. The negative public reaction would be RABID and the company would suffer.

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k_mainer OP t1_j8udcfa wrote

Replying to TheMrGUnit (#1,837,035)

Ok. Thank you… thumb up…breathing. I’ll take a minute to fact check your response. Meanwhile, do you believe the machine of commerce will not overcome this obstacle?

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pm_me_ur_cutie_booty t1_j8ugf3l wrote

This is actually the side plot of Michael Crichton's Next it's all about scientists developing new spaces for advertising, including satellites and genetically engineered animals.

Sea turtles, presented by Mountain Dew.

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saigonk t1_j8ul3dt wrote

Not a fan of Lightspeed Briefs? 😀

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Hot_Salad9000 t1_j8uqcll wrote

Imagine instead of Coca-Cola using sky ads, they just lower the cost of the product? The more I am advertised to, the less I want your product.

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kaozennrk t1_j8utxlx wrote

A true worry. It seems we don't seem to have any push back on visual annoyance. Signs and sings and signs. Billboards (not in maine). Road signs- our stop signs now all have signs that warn there is stop sign. Cities and towns installing bright digital information screens. More and more you look around and see visual pollution. People walking a beach at night with a headlamp on. It's like we don't have any sense of the disruption on serenity all these thing have. And space won't be any different. (okay rant over)

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NoShip7475 t1_j8ve2rg wrote

The second amendment fixes this. The tricky part is getting the surface to air stuff.

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tehmightyengineer t1_j8vfo52 wrote

Replying to k_mainer (#1,837,119)

In the past 5 years two organizations have launched temporary satellites designed specifically to reflect light. One was somewhat dim and the other wasn't deployed in time due to a government shutdown and could not be seen.

That said, there's generally not been any outcry because nobody has really done anything that disruptive (these sats were small points of light), but it's pretty well understood that the first organization that functionally changes the night sky for some commercial purposes will receive nothing but bad publicity from it. So I doubt anyone will actually do it.

SpaceX sats are specifically designed to not reflect light when in position specifically because of the backlash over the number of them. Currently they still mess with astronomy to some degree but they're not going to be visible when in their final orbit. Most anyone else launching sats will do the same.

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kazaskie t1_j8vgftg wrote

I have this shimmer of hope for humanity that once a company decides to put advertisements in space the collective backlash against their foul desecration of nature will put them out of business on the spot

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theHoustonian t1_j8w4n25 wrote

Replying to kaozennrk (#1,838,433)

When I moved to Maine from Texas the billboard thing I think I knew about but didn’t think about. After living in Maine for 2+ years… it is another story, I absolutely love it and it is a daily reminder how different my experience is. On the freeway driving to another city, great beautiful serenity. In town, awesome… no unsightly obstacle to worry about when backing out of a parking space or to busy your vision while you try to look down the street at the traffic.

Lol fuck yeah, keep this a thing, I didn’t know how much of a thing is was until I was shown different.

If you value nature, beauty of the land, and just not being constantly pedaled shit from some advertising boardroom then support initiatives to prevent this crap.

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ns1337 t1_j8we3nv wrote

We here in Maine are incredibly lucky to have access to some of the darkest night skies east of the Mississippi River. I've spent a LOT of time under the stars here and hate the idea of more clusters of satellites zooming around like Starlink. Between that and increasing light pollution, we may not get to share the awe-inspiring experience of a pristine, unspoiled night sky with future generations.

I'm super thankful that the Appalachian Mountain Club has created the Maine Woods Dark Sky Park, and are helping draw attention to the preservation of something a lot of people take for granted. They've got some good info about the importance of dark skies on their website.

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The_Maine_Sam t1_j8wie49 wrote

I don't think this is a real reason for concern. There has already been lots of push back due to Starlink satellites which has led to a lot of attention to the issue. Future Starlink satellites are planned to be much less intrusive in the night sky and industry wide it is being thought of. Regulation will probably come, too.

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Ebomb1 t1_j8wk3y3 wrote

Let's focus on getting video ads off gas pumps first.

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theora55 t1_j97pe6f wrote

I would contribute to missile launchers if drones and satellites try this. It's bad enough that light pollution has made the night sky impossible for most people to appreciate.

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