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Seppdizzle t1_j4e3p95 wrote
Can confirm!
Shilo788 t1_j4tiiyz wrote
Yes I am one. I can't take summer with constant 90.s . I came here and hide in the water under a bridge in the bad days. I rather brave leaches than heat stroke.
Lieutenant_Joe t1_j4covmh wrote
This has been on my mind for awhile. I’m pretty sure the answer is “yes, and you thank your lucky stars you’re in one of the places people are fleeing to rather than from”.
My best friend has been encouraging me to leave the state. I’ve been telling him things like “it’s not my time yet,” “my mother needs me”, “I want more life experience”… but really, it’s because I don’t want to be stuck on a warmer (now or later) part of the planet when the place I left is projected to handle climate change better than most anywhere else—in the world, not just the country.
cheese_tits_mobile t1_j4e2tct wrote
Being next to an ocean AND a Great Lake (largest source of freshwater on the planet) is a great spot to be. We gon be living in a rainforest in 50y
Positive_Fisherman78 t1_j4co6gq wrote
Yeah. Climate refugees will be a huge crisis.
PatsFreak101 t1_j4c8f10 wrote
Maine is in an ideal location to weather climate change. We will likely lose winter as we know it but life should be possible here. We should be planning ahead for this happening.
Shilo788 t1_j4tioxb wrote
I worry about forest fires as there will be drought and trees will die that can't take heat like the boreal areas in the County.
AnythingToAvoidWork t1_j4cy19y wrote
Absolutely.
I'm in NH and our housing is drying up fast. All the lakes are turning into .2 acre lots, you know the drill.
My dad and sister live in Maine and they've been noticing it happening, too.
Nice thing for Maine is that it's far enough away from Boston to be insulated from being turned into a suburb like southern NH is.
I imagine Portland is starting to sprawl quite a bit.
Maine, NH and VT are the three best states to live in the U.S. in terms of climate change IIRC.
linuxdragons t1_j4dsply wrote
Yes, it's starting to sprawl. Even with the pandemic boom, the net inflow of migration was very modest though. It's significant because it stopped the years long trend of negative population growth. The south was the main benefactor of migration.
[deleted] t1_j4ctx26 wrote
I came to Maine largely because of climate.... looking at the projections for the next 30+ years in the US, it wasn't hard to narrow down the states that were more resistant combined with cultural aspects (southern states are less ideal since they are more extremist).
Apeacefrog t1_j4g4134 wrote
We moved here from FL three years ago, the highest “Pro” on our list was How its going to handle climate change. This winter is a very good example. Already seeing major effects, and we thought we’d have a good 5-10 years of snow. Not so much. Bought 5 acres, with a pool, on the outskirts of town. Smartest thing we’ve done in a long time. Hate being treated as a Praia by most locals, but just could not take the heat and humidity of the south any longer. 🤷🏻♀️ It was Maine or Minnesota….lol Thank god we avoided the polar vortex!
bigdummy53 t1_j4htlaj wrote
*pariah
[deleted] t1_j4gbk9b wrote
> Already seeing major effects, and we thought we’d have a good 5-10 years of snow.
Yea, things are changing rapidly. I think a lot of people picture climate change as something that will become an issue that will significantly impact them at the end of a 30 or 50 year span, as if some switch will get turned on.
Instead of just the increasingly crappy conditions people have to suffer through. Like this last summer in Kansas before I moved out here was brutal. Most days I just couldn't go outside to work on anything because it was too hot.
And before that I was in California for many years, and every year was more and more forest fires and droughts.
The writing is on the wall, and nowhere do projections say we are on the path towards fixing anything. Instead year after year they just seem to be trying to get everyone used to increasingly extreme outcomes coming in the future... we are at the point where people pray the worse case scenario of 1.5c talked about 10 years ago is "all that happens".
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>Hate being treated as a Praia by most locals,
I haven't run into that much yet. Though I didn't come to rural Maine because I was trying to socialize haha.
Generally people just say they like my hat and I say thanks and continue to go about my business.
iceflame1211 t1_j4cxf45 wrote
Depends on your definition of "overrun", but will climate migrants come to Maine in larger numbers? Yes, absolutely. Humans will migrate away from islands/the equator worldwide as areas become uninhabitable.
AtrytoneSedai t1_j4ebjyd wrote
I don’t think a depopulating state in desperate need of workers and a tax base is in danger of being overrun.
azrael0503 t1_j4emvz8 wrote
Give it time. Land close to the ocean is cheap up here compared to the rest of the country. As warming trends continue more people will consider migrating north. Climate migration is already beginning and will accelerate in the years to come. Hell my wife and I moved here because the cost of living is considerably cheaper than other coastal areas.
AtrytoneSedai t1_j4g5h8t wrote
My point is that we don’t have enough people to support our communities, especially in the central and northern parts of the state—it’s a common problem in the news. We need migrants, despite our issues with xenophobia (this “from away” mentality is really obnoxious). I’m grateful we’re a state people are moving to, instead of from. And anyone who’s fleeing destructive climate impacts gets my support and my sympathy.
Skjeggape t1_j4dp572 wrote
We were able to get some nice undeveloped land early in the pandemic. Seriously thinking about going back and taking another look some of the large 100acre, clearcut, "ugly" and inconveniently located parcels of land that we looked at that were relatively cheap. Seems like in 10-15 years from now the demand for such land might be vastly higher than now...
slothscantswim t1_j4e3fxr wrote
That’s why we moved here years ago. Writing was on the wall, figured we’d move north before prices went insane. No regrets, love it here.
FITM-K t1_j4c7ip1 wrote
Eventually, yes.
rofopp t1_j4dadew wrote
I don’t love there, but there’s lots of room up by Lincoln
pooks_turtles t1_j4g5fda wrote
Our population is literally dying! We need in-migration. If state and local governments stopped making it so difficult to construct new housing, that wouldn't be a problem either. This state's massive potential is squandered by those who cling to the past and try to keep everything static.
DisciplineFull9791 OP t1_j4hf5xs wrote
Maine's vast forested areas are doing more than their part toward reductions in carbon emissions and the states carbon neutrality, and tourists come here because of the unspoiled and undeveloped majority of the state's land mass. I don't think any of us want to be another Massachusetts but agree that we need a solution to affordable housing to attract more young people. My son and daughter are young, educated and were born in Maine and can't find an affordable place to live in southern Maine.
MathematicianGlum880 t1_j4cpffq wrote
I know someone who lives in the Bradford area and he just told my husband and I that quite a few wealthy people have come in to Maine and bought up properties. Things are going to change here,,,,
geaibleu t1_j4e1tza wrote
i relocated to ME/NB for several reasons, climate change being one of them. That said climate crisis has to worsen before people decide to uproot their households and move from say WA to northeast in numbers.
axolotldistrolotl t1_j4ehjvf wrote
God I hope so, maybe then the food here won't suck balls anymore.
RavenMurder t1_j4lf1gs wrote
Already happening. It’s a big reason my husband and I moved here, we consider ourselves one of the first and I have met a few others that have done the same for the same reasons. Sorry Mainers!
moxie-maniac t1_j4eqn83 wrote
Plus expect a lot of second growth forest, trees not mature enough for building, useful just for newsprint, to become agricultural land, since longer growing seasons will enable farming for varieties of fruits and vegetables that are hit or miss today. Think beets, radishes, carrots, maybe broccoli, cabbage, etc.
[deleted] t1_j4fh0ep wrote
Of course.
ppitm t1_j4g749u wrote
Just make sure it's responsible and sustainable development. Ban suburbia. You can fit a lot of people in that way, without ruining the entire landscape.
Notmystationbro t1_j4f6xj4 wrote
Why would anyone listen to a computer wizard when it comes to climate and human nutrition is beyond ridiculous to me.
Nowhere_X_Anywhere t1_j4ekm91 wrote
I mean it is already being overrun by a new wave of well heeled political reactionaries who, while loving their gas guzzlers and showing no comprehension of the greater global drivers of climate change, love to lecture on what we need to do to make ME better for them, and by extension the environment.
So yeah we have/are already being overrun by the Bill Gates brand of eco warrior.
What, fly in a private jet less? Nah that won't make a difference.
Burn wood in a stove to stay warm? Yeah you are fucking killing your unborn great great grandchildren via asphyxiation
How the fuck that guy, who stole Windows and thus billions from others and who paved the way for the antitrust doesn't apply if you get big enough fast enough model, became/was propped up as the beacon of environmental ethics is beyond me.
Bill Gates is just another example of the problem trying to pose as a provider of solutions. Maine is being overrun by that ilk for sure
Accomplished-Bee650 t1_j4enpiz wrote
You don’t understand burning wood for heat or it’s implications.
Nowhere_X_Anywhere t1_j4eo3q9 wrote
I do. I also am fully aware that we ignore all the emissions from industrial ocean going shipping around the globe.
Thank you for proving my point.
Accomplished-Bee650 t1_j4eoqan wrote
What? How did I prove your point?
FragilousSpectunkery t1_j4etixl wrote
Times like this it’s best just to admit defeat rather than prolong suffering.
Nowhere_X_Anywhere t1_j4et77v wrote
You're right, you didn't prove my point. You only personify the example of the reactionary I described in my initial point.
You want to focus on blaming neighbors who have woodstoves while ignoring that everything we buy is shipped on ships burning the dirtiest fuel we currently refine, with zero emissions/efficiency standards for the ships that burn it, while we continue to increase annual shipping miles every single year. Better still you seem to have no understanding of annual global shipping emissions, which continue to increase year over year, or interest in changing it. If you did, woodstoves would not have been your chosen rebuttal.
Instead you jump at a comment about woodstoves as your point of contention. You aren't responding based on data, but reacting based on your emotional understanding of something you don't like; woodstoves or wood burners.
How can I make such a projection? Because you only want to react to rightful discounting of the global impact of woodstoves by getting defensive or declaring I am ignorant to their impact.
In the context of environmental impact you're tripping over dollars to point at pennies; A low information reactionary.
Yeah, Maine has already been overrun by them.
We can discuss the per annum increase in air miles, and lack of emissions/efficiency standards on commercial and private jets some other time. They too dwarf any impact that the average North American wood stove reliant resident has on the environment at large.
Amdy_vill t1_j4e7vc7 wrote
No. We will be climate migration. If global warming gets that bad. It would effect other places first but we'd be flooded out very quickly. If climate changes get that bad we will be one of the effected areas. The bad part of climate migrants is it will push people inland to avoid the extreme weather and rising sea-level. Most inferstructure in the world us on a coast. Most cities are. It's gonna be an inferstructurely nightmare. And it's preventable right now. We can't stop what's been done but we can prevent catastrophe if we change course.
DarkEyes5150 t1_j4ef68x wrote
The earth is coming out of a ice age. Yep its gona warm up
AntneeREDUX t1_j4luk1p wrote
The thing is, and this is always what you people gleefully gloss over, is that it should take thousands of years to make this kind of temperature change, not tens.
DarkEyes5150 t1_j4lvy2t wrote
Damn down vote city. Im going back to just posting photos.
Armigine t1_j4cx8g9 wrote
Hi.
indyaj t1_j4cdi32 wrote
It will. It's already started.