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crenk3130 t1_iynb11o wrote

Reply to comment by bubba1819 in Maine Dem (Jared Golden) Has Some Words for Biden After He Ordered 200 Lobsters for an Event at the WH by otakugrey

“years or decades” yeah bub that’s pretty fuckin soon if you ask me. the only people i know that think like that are the “i’ll be in the ground long before then” types, and they’re all self-centered dicks.

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bubba1819 t1_iynbk2f wrote

I’m not saying decades isn’t soon. Just that 10 years is 10 years that someone can use to change how they make money to keep their home and pay their bills. 10 years vs 2 years is a hell of a difference when it comes to how a person makes a living.

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crenk3130 t1_iyndu5v wrote

this is nonsensical but i’ll entertain it. if the population that you’re giving that extra 8 years to is SO dead set in their ways that they won’t change now, why is giving them 8 extra years going to change anything? the gulf of maine is the second fastest warming body of water in the world and has been for a decade; that is NOT new information. ocean acidification and de-salinization is making it harder for lobsters, crabs, clams, etc. to develop and maintain their shells, which will impact future harvests as a higher percentage of young populations fail to mature. so, as these things CONTINUE to occur to a greater extent, what THEN will be the incentive for lobsterman to change after a decade of being the pampered by people who don’t want to tell them the hard truth of their situation, that their industry WILL DIE absent widespread intervention and reform.

lobsterman can keep burying their heads into the sand if they want but i guess i just don’t want to hear about it when the bottom falls out on a group of workers who are belligerently resistant to any and all changes

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bubba1819 t1_iynk70v wrote

I don’t see how this is nonsensical at all as I am living proof of a fishermen leaving the industry. My entire lively good used to depend on lobster fishing and as I learned more and more about the vast impacts climate change would have on my livelihood, I took the slow arduous task of getting out of the industry and moving to a different part of the state. It was a hard process and I was lucky enough not to have to worry about how I was going to support a child in the process. I was also lucky enough that I didn’t have to worry about a boat payment or a mortgage. If I had those two things I wouldn’t have been able to walk away so easily. I’m also not the only one. I know of quite a few fishermen that are seeing the warning signs and have either entirely gotten out of the fishery or are diversifying their income. Many are starting up small aquaculture farms such as farming kelp. I know some lobster pound owners are starting to raise oysters in their pounds to diversify their incomes. Are some fishermen entirely ignorant of accepting that climate change is real? Yes, there are, but there are also many that have an all to real understanding of it.

Also want to point out that I have a Marine Biology degree and have participated in scientific studies on how ocean acidification may impact shellfish. So I have a pretty good understanding how all this works.

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