meowmix778 t1_isdajjy wrote
Reply to comment by determania in Alaska's cancellation of the snow crab season offers a grave, potential prediction for Maine's lobster industry. by combatbydesign
I mean we have the capability for most other industries from hostility, medical, insurance, trades, automotive, etc. Just the same as other states. The issue is we just have a state that focuses on hospitality and retail.
ADuhSude t1_isdsbss wrote
We absolutely do not have the ability to grow the medical industry in Maine lol.
meowmix778 t1_isf03pb wrote
One company seems fine at growing a monopoly if nothing else.
determania t1_isdar3q wrote
I feel like this is a really naive comment. Like we can just snap our fingers and reshape our economy.
meowmix778 t1_isdd80p wrote
I'm not really suggested hand out magic ✨️ wands and we all get new jobs and fiber internet and whatever else. I'm saying if we invest in our future eventually it'll be a better place.
Above I point out we should invest in jobs for the fishermen. If you put money/time/incentives into programs it'll become a net positive. If you ignore it eventually the bottom falls out.
determania t1_isddoro wrote
How do we invest in jobs for them? Lobster is a resource that brings in tons of money from outside Maine. Replacing that isn’t as simple as offering job training.
meowmix778 t1_isf0fke wrote
I mean I'll be frank. If I had the silver bullet I'd on commercials every 17 seconds hoping you voted for me, not on reddit.
But it really comes from a place of gradual change and replacement. Just like those farmers in the 1800s couldn't imagine working on factories we likely can't imagine the "next big thing".
determania t1_isf117m wrote
> So government intervention is badly needed. Be it a short term payment to the fishermen or offering them free or discounted training for trades/
So then you would agree this is an oversimplification of the issue, right? I feel like you have shifted your argument a bit since that original comment.
meowmix778 t1_isfmgsf wrote
Not at all. I'm still arguing the same point. For those in the back
Commercial fishing is not sustainable for the long term. Our economy is reliant on it. Our elected officials need to make policies to help people other than "bad fishermen, stop". In that same breath, we need drastic and immediate action to preserve our planet.
You put me in a room with 192 people or something and say "train them to do different jobs". I could probably get you there, my background is in market research/training and HR. But you get me 10,000 people I'd need help. That's reasonable for like... anyone ? Thats why we hire the government. To solve those bigger picture issues. To research and resolve the issues. To go "eeehh well I don't see good quality engineering jobs... might as well fish to extinction" is just silly
determania t1_isfn2c2 wrote
Well, you definitely are not arguing the same point, and you seem to be misunderstanding what I am saying as well. I am not saying to do nothing. I’m saying that your empty platitudes like job training are meaningless when there are no jobs to train for.
Edit: You also might want to revisit what the issue is here. It’s climate change and not overfishing.
meowmix778 t1_isfoqwy wrote
It's cause and effect. If you do nothing then nothing changes. If you invest into an economy then it changes. One of the best ways to do so is re skilling people. Jobs follow talented work forces. It's not this over night change.
And climate change is directly tied to overfishing. Or more broadly the over consumption of resources. We didn't cause climate change by consuming too little.
determania t1_isfpfgm wrote
> Jobs follow talented work forces.
I think you got that one backwards
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