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800grandave t1_iu3pfxf wrote

Reply to comment by LifeInTheCarpoolLane in Would you Tip the same or at all, if the service industry workers earned states minimum wage or more. That be the case if the Question D in Portland passes. by kubabooba

i don’t necessarily disagree with your point. i bartend. the only people that would share your viewpoint, would be tourists, strangers, non regulars (imo/experience)

i dont make a living off randos, i make money off people who feel that theyre welcome/safe/whatever that i also see multiple times a week. this pay raise will not alter how they view or value me.

i feel the 15 an hour is only remarkable as a step forward for actually valuing those that do “worthless, why dont you get a real job kinda shit”

im also worried for the small business owner. wheres the line of “oh what will the owner do with rising payroll” as opposed to “can i have something to show on taxes”

theres no fun way outta this. tipping culture is trash, yet i rely on it. if youre a hard-stance “im not tipping anymore….Cuz the principle kinda guy” then fuck you too.

i dunno what im saying, work bled into life and i took 87 shots. weeeeeeeeee

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LifeInTheCarpoolLane t1_iu4ers3 wrote

I get it. I hate tipping culture and think it's dumb as hell. I've always tipped 20% regardless of the service I receive because I know service workers rely, almost solely, on tips to pay the bills. It's not my place to take food off someone's plate because maybe they were having an off day at work.

I'm with you on the concerns to small business's as well. A sudden change from paying your full time staff $31,000 a year, where they were previously making $5500, isn't the type of overnight accounting change that's gonna land a soft blow. I don't know what the actual solve is to be honest. I wish I understood the service industry a little better to get why restaurants and bars outside the US don't have this problem.

I guess I'm also rambling now. Here's a question though, and something I think about often. Why don't all restaurants, bars, etc just add a mandatory 18% gratuity to every bill? It's not a perfect solution, but it guarantees as long as there's business the staff is getting their cut. It would also circumvent the pieces of shit who think they have some moral high ground not to pay someone for their labor because their arbitrary bar for "good service" wasn't met.

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