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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iub8134 wrote

Reply to comment by Lieutenant_Joe in When do you think it's going to snow? by [deleted]

Or somebody that's sick of politics being thrown into everything. I don't Downvote for anything except blatantly untrue statements but I do kind of get where whoever it is is coming from. At the end of the day whether you're liberal, conservative or somewhere in between we're all neighbors here.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iub8c6f wrote

Sorry, man, but I simply don’t respect the “don’t make it political” take in 2022. If you’re anything but a straight, white, male Christian (or the wife of one) in this country, your fucking existence is political.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubatxa wrote

My mother is Vietnamese and my father is white and native. My husband is the child of a WW2 immigrant. There is 0 reason to turn the question "When do you think it's going to snow?" into a political debate. Seriously- no reason.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubb27l wrote

I don’t see how that comment was turning anything into a debate beyond cracking a joke about the election that’s coming a week from now. Although I guess we’re currently debating the merits of a joke. That’s not really a political debate, though.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubcdhi wrote

Tensions are high- you're debating with me over whose lives are political... That says something... Cracking a joke at the expense of your neighbors and community members based on what political letter they place next to their name based on a question about snow seems a bit out of place to me. I'm just sad that we've become so divided that somebody would feel the need to make this remark.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubd4bi wrote

I doubt they’re sorry. I wouldn’t be.

You were one of two comments who responded to me at the same time, and I immediately started arguing with you while immediately relenting with the other person because you said something that annoyed me: “we’re all neighbors here.”

When I was growing up, one of the people I rode the bus with was a self-proclaimed white nationalist. Still is one, last I checked, which was a few months ago. I moved within that town at one point and got new neighbors, but one of those was a family of Californians who hate anyone who isn’t like them and have logged to erasure a public trail system on private property in the town after buying the property from the old, infirm lady who used to own it.

Do not ask me to be pleased about calling nationalistic xenophobes my “neighbors”. Those people don’t want us to exist, man.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubf14v wrote

I never did ask you to call them neighbors. I'm sorry I triggered you it wasn't meant that way. I have heard people tell my mother to go back to her own country. I've been talked to in gibberish that's supposed to sound spanish because I supposedly look more like a Puerto Rican than I do Asian. I understand where you're coming from. I'm still gonna say that we don't need to bring up these emotions in each other based on a question about snow, though. I am truly sorry for triggering you.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubfopi wrote

You’re fine. I’m just sick of the “we’re all in this together” line. Sure, that might be true, but some people are trying to throw others off the raft based entirely on what they were born as rather than who they’ve become. I desperately wish those people weren’t in here with the rest of us. It fuckin sucks.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubk9yk wrote

I agree wholeheartedly. I still honestly think "the rest of us" are the majority but the others are just louder and more crude. Believe me, I'm definitely an ally in the fight against racism, classim, bigotry and misogyny. I hope you have a nice evening. I am truly sorry I brought those emotions back to you.

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masktoobig t1_iubv4hn wrote

The post is about snow, not politics. There's plenty of political posts out there. Just go there instead.

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MoxiousMouse t1_iubp5oa wrote

Your existence is political when you're a straight white male christian too! Doesn't it seem like vilifying people based on sex, race, orientation or religion is wrong, period?

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubq9m2 wrote

I’m not vilifying them. But we can talk about it; I will say they’re the least likely to struggle in life based on what they were born as, rather than their personalities, accomplishments and every other thing that makes them an individual. The rest of us have to deal with various degrees of “You suck and I wish you didn’t exist”, often from/influenced by people in power. There are obviously people who wish straight white male christians didn’t exist, but they generally aren’t people who have the ability to influence the quality of life of entire demographics. Not in this country.

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