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[deleted] OP t1_iuavf03 wrote

Reply to comment by MathematicianGlum880 in When do you think it's going to snow? by [deleted]

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iub5ngm wrote

Obvious sarcasm.

This is twice in the last two days I’ve seen this sub downvote someone because it doesn’t understand sarcasm.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iub8134 wrote

Or somebody that's sick of politics being thrown into everything. I don't Downvote for anything except blatantly untrue statements but I do kind of get where whoever it is is coming from. At the end of the day whether you're liberal, conservative or somewhere in between we're all neighbors here.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iub8c6f wrote

Sorry, man, but I simply don’t respect the “don’t make it political” take in 2022. If you’re anything but a straight, white, male Christian (or the wife of one) in this country, your fucking existence is political.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubatxa wrote

My mother is Vietnamese and my father is white and native. My husband is the child of a WW2 immigrant. There is 0 reason to turn the question "When do you think it's going to snow?" into a political debate. Seriously- no reason.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubb27l wrote

I don’t see how that comment was turning anything into a debate beyond cracking a joke about the election that’s coming a week from now. Although I guess we’re currently debating the merits of a joke. That’s not really a political debate, though.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubcdhi wrote

Tensions are high- you're debating with me over whose lives are political... That says something... Cracking a joke at the expense of your neighbors and community members based on what political letter they place next to their name based on a question about snow seems a bit out of place to me. I'm just sad that we've become so divided that somebody would feel the need to make this remark.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubd4bi wrote

I doubt they’re sorry. I wouldn’t be.

You were one of two comments who responded to me at the same time, and I immediately started arguing with you while immediately relenting with the other person because you said something that annoyed me: “we’re all neighbors here.”

When I was growing up, one of the people I rode the bus with was a self-proclaimed white nationalist. Still is one, last I checked, which was a few months ago. I moved within that town at one point and got new neighbors, but one of those was a family of Californians who hate anyone who isn’t like them and have logged to erasure a public trail system on private property in the town after buying the property from the old, infirm lady who used to own it.

Do not ask me to be pleased about calling nationalistic xenophobes my “neighbors”. Those people don’t want us to exist, man.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubf14v wrote

I never did ask you to call them neighbors. I'm sorry I triggered you it wasn't meant that way. I have heard people tell my mother to go back to her own country. I've been talked to in gibberish that's supposed to sound spanish because I supposedly look more like a Puerto Rican than I do Asian. I understand where you're coming from. I'm still gonna say that we don't need to bring up these emotions in each other based on a question about snow, though. I am truly sorry for triggering you.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubfopi wrote

You’re fine. I’m just sick of the “we’re all in this together” line. Sure, that might be true, but some people are trying to throw others off the raft based entirely on what they were born as rather than who they’ve become. I desperately wish those people weren’t in here with the rest of us. It fuckin sucks.

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TraditionalPiccolo28 t1_iubk9yk wrote

I agree wholeheartedly. I still honestly think "the rest of us" are the majority but the others are just louder and more crude. Believe me, I'm definitely an ally in the fight against racism, classim, bigotry and misogyny. I hope you have a nice evening. I am truly sorry I brought those emotions back to you.

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masktoobig t1_iubv4hn wrote

The post is about snow, not politics. There's plenty of political posts out there. Just go there instead.

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MoxiousMouse t1_iubp5oa wrote

Your existence is political when you're a straight white male christian too! Doesn't it seem like vilifying people based on sex, race, orientation or religion is wrong, period?

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubq9m2 wrote

I’m not vilifying them. But we can talk about it; I will say they’re the least likely to struggle in life based on what they were born as, rather than their personalities, accomplishments and every other thing that makes them an individual. The rest of us have to deal with various degrees of “You suck and I wish you didn’t exist”, often from/influenced by people in power. There are obviously people who wish straight white male christians didn’t exist, but they generally aren’t people who have the ability to influence the quality of life of entire demographics. Not in this country.

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sheeponabowl t1_iub84tn wrote

It’s not that we don’t understand sarcasm, it’s that we think comments like this one are stupid. Don’t bring politics into something where politics isn’t brought up. It’s that simple.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iub9uja wrote

Alright, well, the one yesterday wasn’t political, and it’s not like it’s an uncommon occurrence. Forgive the immediate assumption. I’m pretty sick of seeing it happen here.

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sheeponabowl t1_iuba42c wrote

I can’t comment on yesterday because I didn’t see it so I’ll give you that one. But this one was just out of place and unnecessary.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubaj2o wrote

After I made my reply calling it out, the comment jumped from -10 to -1, so I’m gonna try to do it every time I see it from now on.

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sheeponabowl t1_iubal96 wrote

That’s fair.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubgsl6 wrote

Also, just as an addendum to something I said earlier: I didn’t remember the context of the downvoted sarcasm I saw yesterday tbh, so I checked just to get my facts straight, and it was actually a very political comment on a very political post. I still think it was glaringly obvious, though.

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sheeponabowl t1_iubi5y5 wrote

Oh just kidding. That one has an upvote from me because it made me chuckle.

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scorpiogre t1_iubg1ah wrote

Don't know if this helps, but this /s indicates sarcasm on reddit, so if you said something sarcastic just throw that at the end and people know its a joke.....usually

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubg3jg wrote

r/FuckTheS

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scorpiogre t1_iubh6ry wrote

Well ok then.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubhct2 wrote

Sorry, but I’m of the opinion that sarcasm stops being funny when you have to explain that it’s sarcasm. I’ve largely stopped using it on this site because Reddit now immediately assumes you’re being sincere without the /s, even if you’re as obvious as you possibly can be.

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scorpiogre t1_iubiz5w wrote

People are a funny bunch. Ya gotta remember that it's text people are reading and they interpret stuff from their point of view. The /s is just a way to help.

That's just like my opinion dude.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubj7ns wrote

I get it. But I won’t be caught dead using it, and I don’t like seeing people punished for not using it.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_iubjatx wrote

Is it? Because that attempt sucked more than anything that has ever sucked before.

Sarcasm is hard to determine from text. That is why tone indicators are a thing. Furthermore, as already stated, it's a dumb comment whether sarcastic or not. If you insert politics into an innocuous conversation that has nothing to do with it, then you are a sad person and I will judge you harshly and accordingly.

Smart people don't do that. Even though we're near Election Day, smart people do not do that. Ever.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubjkvg wrote

Reddit’s broken my brain; I interpreted your first paragraph as not sarcasm and started formulating a response, and it took me 10 seconds to realize

Think imma put the phone down for the night

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DidDunMegasploded t1_iubvquh wrote

Maybe you should, because I'm not being sarcastic at all in my overall comment. You don't have to have a broken brain to look at a post or comment and not see a tone indicator.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubwfoi wrote

>nothing has ever sucked more than this poor attempt at a Reddit comment

That was either sarcasm, or you’ve lived an extremely privileged and sheltered life and aren’t one to be calling anyone’s intelligence into question.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_iubxxgk wrote

Ahaha...aaaaah...ha, no, it's not sarcasm. Why don't you Google "tone indicators" and then get back to me.

If I, an autistic person, can distinguish what is sarcasm and what is not and you, a neurotypical person, cannot, then someone needs to step back and really assess the situation here. And it's not me.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_iubykhx wrote

Alright, now I know you’re an asshole. I’m autistic too. I would have hoped you’d know better than to just assume someone’s brain chemistry after spending any significant period of time as an autistic person on the internet, but I guess not. Whatever your last response is gonna be is none of my business; you’ve been my only waste of time in this whole thread.

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DidDunMegasploded t1_iuc3fag wrote

Okay then. You can keep supporting the art of politics being shoved into irrelevant conversations and keep being blissfully unaware of the art of tone indicators. I'm happy to leave this pseudo-argument armed with a lot more knowledge of both arts.

And there's no rule of the Internet that states "assume everyone is autistic unless stated otherwise", either.

An autistic person who doesn't know about tone indicators...I'll have to mark that on my list of "Things I Thought I'd Never See". Adieu.

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